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Paul favors shift in foreign policy

By Brandon Quester

bquester@wyomingnews.com

CHEYENNE - Ron Paul (R-Texas) told a modest audience Sunday that he is running on a platform of what he doesn't want to do if he were elected president.

Some of the most resounding of those issues were that he doesn't want to stay in Iraq and he definitely doesn't want to raise taxes. He also doesn't want an Internal Revenue Service or large government organizations like the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

But according to his pep-rally speech held at the Cheyenne Depot Plaza, he does want to downsize the government to represent what he said the Founding Fathers intended when they drafted the United States Constitution.

Paul visited Cheyenne on Sunday afternoon in his effort to raise campaign money and speak to local community members regarding his presidential platform.

Paul said he chose Cheyenne because there are a lot of financial supporters in the area and because Wyoming's intention to hold an early primary.

With a growing number of supporters from the Internet, Paul said that he believes he has a chance at becoming the country's next president.

Paul added that he is sick and tired of what is happening in the United States and that the people need change.

One such change, he said, is dealing with issues outside the United States.

"We have to change our foreign policy," Paul said. "It's way out of proportion for what we need to do."

Paul said he supports an immediate withdrawal of American troops from Iraq.

"The lessons of Vietnam are worth looking at," he said. "That's why we need to quit (in Iraq). Everything we do has an unintended consequence."

Paul added that the situation abroad would get much better if America pulled out of the war.

Although Paul said that he supports American troops, he did say that people who agree with the current war should be open- minded and look at the other side.

Carol Wagner of Fort Collins, Colo., said that she came to hear Paul speak because she believes in what he has to say.

"He's (Paul) the only one that sticks to the Constitution and I think he's the last hope for our country," Wagner said.

"People want change. People are tired of what's going on."

Although Wagner recognized that there are other presidential candidates ahead of Paul, she did say that she thinks he has a chance.

"It may be an upward battle, but I think we can do it," she said.

Joe Marty of Colorado Springs, Colo., agreed with what Wagner had to say and feels that the Constitution is important.

"He's the only one you hear talking about the Constitution. He's consistent," Marty said.

Following the rally at the Depot Plaza, Paul held a fundraiser dinner at the Plains Hotel.




Reader Comments

Imp Licaverse wrote on Nov 6, 2007 9:04 AM:

" It's easy to imagine that passengers armed with guns could have stopped terrorists armed with box cutters. It's difficult to see how allowing passengers to carry guns would cause 3000 deaths. "

Freespirit wrote on Nov 4, 2007 11:34 AM:

" Ralphinphnx...put a sock in it!I'm not brainwashed but like everyone including yourself have an opinion.I don't intend to give you oxegen of further publicity as I find your remarks cranky and offensive not so much to our Politicians but our brave armed forces fighting in the Middle East. I'm comforted that your sort are a very small minority amongest our communties.I feel sorry for you that you have to be so objectable as you crave publicity. Back to the original point concerning Rep.Paul..Watching his website video's.Second amedment!Seems to suggest that if passengers had carried guns there would have been no 9/11..What!! "

Outta _Chey_Town wrote on Nov 4, 2007 5:05 AM:

" I am curious what he means here:"Although Paul said that he supports American troops, he did say that people who agree with the current war should be open- minded and look at the other side." Open minded and look at the other side? Im a republican and that right there means I wont be voting for him. Open minded means accepting radical Islam in any way, shape, or form. Im in Iraq now(not in the military) and its not nearly as bad as the liberal media will have you believe. "

Ralphinphnx wrote on Nov 3, 2007 3:05 AM:

" Freespirit you need to put down all that crazy President Dry Drunk George W Bush & Draft Dodger Cheney Kool Aid and got to the nearest GOP Kool Aid Rehab Right Now! As your mind is totally brainwashed by this phony nonsense about,"If we don't fight them over there they will follow us back here" Pure Bush And Cheney Propoganda that only the weak minded like you buy anymore. Where's Osama bin laden? "

J Cash wrote on Nov 2, 2007 4:42 PM:

" As a veteran and American I support Ron Paul all the way.Nobody should have been sent to Iraq to fight anyone unless there was a war declaration. Dr. Paul pointed that out at the very outset and offered a war declaration that was consistent with the Constitution. It did not pass. What did pass was a use of force resolution that can't be found in the Constitution. Either we have a Constitution or we do not. Under Paul we have one and under the others we do not. It is just that simple. The reason Ron Paul will be elected is far bigger than Ron Paul himselfit is the message of freedom Freedom is popular. Very popular. "

Freespirit wrote on Nov 2, 2007 9:01 AM:

" Jesse...Politicians failed us in Nam buddy and as a Vet that's not a wise subject to start me on!..Politicians by the likes of Rep.Paul and Popularist Democrats will let our service people down again not to mention the Iraqi people.Whatever you Rep.Paul supporters say I don't trust a Politician who says what he wants you to hear for a few votes more.Likewise with minority voters.All politicians are con merchants. For the record I don't think much of any of the declared candidates from either party.The last I will say on the matter. "

Jesse wrote on Nov 1, 2007 1:04 PM:

" @ freespirit: Did you buy the whole 'fight them there so we don't have to fight them here' line during Vietnam? You should also read up on the effects of US foreign policy and the true roots of militant Islam. Dr. Paul also enjoys minority support - http://alexmerced.blogspot.com/2007/10/minoriries-for-ron-paul.html. Sounds like someone needs to do some research online. "

freespirit wrote on Oct 31, 2007 1:16 PM:

" In response to "seapilot" Rep.Paul has no chance of becoming the next President. His appeal is to small town Mid west folk and just cut it with voters in the North and Eastern States.Just look at his website shows his meetings are exclusively white voters! No GOP candidate can ignore minority voters in 2008.As for us getting the better of Japan just look who dominates our car market these days!!Terrorism won't go away if we pull our troops out of Iraq.Sadly the enemy is amongest us.Better to destroy our enemies in Iraq than fight them here on our own steets. "

Jesse wrote on Oct 31, 2007 12:49 PM:

" @ John: Ron Paul is pro-life. You need to pay more attention to his statements on major issues. He wants to overturn Roe v. Wade. Have you even bothered to look at his site? "

CarlB wrote on Oct 31, 2007 11:04 AM:

" Here's Ron Paul on the Jay Leno show and a great article from MSNBC! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0KwY9Uzqtk http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21516892/ Ron Paul is the CHAMPION of the Constitution and the best hope for America! "

J wrote on Oct 31, 2007 11:01 AM:

" Ron Paul ***IS*** pro life. Anyone who says otherwise is FIBBING. Look at his website ! And voting record ! "

Barby wrote on Oct 31, 2007 9:02 AM:

" Joe, Where did you get the idea that Dr. Ron Paul is not pro-life? He is absolutely pro-life, but believes that this is an issue best left to the states. "

Shirley Lummis wrote on Oct 31, 2007 8:45 AM:

" I must admit I was kind of disappointed when I showed up and it indeed was NOT Ru Paul. "

Joe wrote on Oct 31, 2007 4:43 AM:

" I would support him except for the fact he's not pro-life, which is a shame. He would be even more popular among Republicans if he was. "

Ralphinphnx wrote on Oct 31, 2007 1:48 AM:

" So,maybe the definition of what a "Modest Crowd" depends on who is counting it or some other idiot reporter still trying to become a newspaper journalist,after they graduate from their high school journalism class,you think here? "

seapilot wrote on Oct 30, 2007 11:09 PM:

" to freespirit, You mean playing into the terrorists hands by spending until we are bankrupt? Yes we are doing that. History of the middle east is riddled with bloodbaths our being there is a mere paragraph in that bloody history. Yes we got zapped at Pearl Harbor, never mind that D.C. never warned them to be prepared for an attack that was coming. That was a smart move on the Japanese,we ended up destroying them. USA will not be destroyed by an external enemy but one within. If following the constitution is wrong I dont want to be right. Ron Paul has been right on foriegn policy for 30 years. He would be the best president this country has had in a long time. "

S. W. Gore wrote on Oct 30, 2007 9:25 PM:

" I live in Cheyenne & attended the rally. It didn't seem "modest" to me when 200-300 people were cheering and waving signs. My family drove down from Lander. Straw poll results: Ron Paul 49, Fred Thompson 25, Duncan Hunter 15, Mitt Romney 14. "

CarlK wrote on Oct 30, 2007 8:48 PM:

" It's great to hear that Ron Paul support in Wyoming is so strong! Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate who can stand up to Hillary. "

John Lafer wrote on Oct 30, 2007 8:08 PM:

" One misconception of Rep. Paul is that he is an isolationist. In fact he is a non-interventionist which is quite different. He wants to see trade, diplomacy, travel with other countries. He also supports a strong national defense - one not diluted by stirring up hornets' nests around the globe. "

Ripvanwinkle wrote on Oct 30, 2007 7:48 PM:

" Who is Ron Paul? "

WyoNative wrote on Oct 30, 2007 4:42 PM:

" I like Ron Paul. With him it's not a case of ME first, party second and USA third! He truly cares about his country. As for him being an isolationist, it may not ne a bad idea. We can no longer afford to police the entire world. No more, in trouble call 911USA. It's time we took care of our own, let France or Russia take care of the world. We did our share. Ron Paul is our guy ! "

Gene wrote on Oct 30, 2007 1:13 PM:

" I've heard a lot about Ron Paul even though the mainstream medias like fox, cnn and msnbc don't give him much coverage. Someone that actually believes in the constitution and doing things for this nation. The politicians in Washington have done nothing but bicker, work 108 days out of the year in session and give themselves raises while padding their pockets and the pockets of all their wealthy friends. The mainstream candidates are a joke especially Hillary. I'm all for Ron Paul! He sounds like a true American to me. "

Will W. wrote on Oct 30, 2007 1:05 PM:

" I'm like many of you. I had never even HEARD of Ron Paul until a few months ago. I've voted for Bush1, Clinton, then Bush2, trying to find someone who would do "right" by the USA. That's when I realized both Parties were liars, and had set it up so there were no alternatives. I am 42, Black, Christian, and a Californian, so my support of Ron Paul may be unexpected. However, no one else in this race speaks like this man! I am contrbuting to his campaign, and telling everyone about him. I will vote for him, and if he does not win the nomination, I WILL write-him-in for President! "

Ron Aldof wrote on Oct 30, 2007 10:06 AM:

" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapata_Oil This is one reason why you should vote for Ron Paul. "

CarlB wrote on Oct 30, 2007 8:41 AM:

" What a great day in Cheyenne! Hundreds of Patriots at the rally cheering for Dr. Paul! He is the CHAMPION of our Constitution and the BEST HOPE for America!! Get involved today and help take our country back!! http://ronpaul.meetup.com/254/ "

Scott Frost wrote on Oct 30, 2007 3:21 AM:

" Good article. It is worth adding that Ron Paul voluntarily chooses not to participate in the very lucrative Congressional pension plan which, in my opinion, is one of the main incentives for even well-intentioned politicians to become corrupted because their need to get re-elected soon exceeds their need to do what is right or what they campaigned on. Ron Paul is principled. He has been saying these things for decades. Watch his web site on Nov. 5th. There will be a flood of donations that day. There's a story in it. ;) "

Jake wrote on Oct 30, 2007 12:54 AM:

" I made one comment that I guess was not approved; perhaps it was too long. So, briefly, see this video to get an idea of the size of the crowd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKVvgyIEqbQ The videographer, who was there, estimates 300+ people. The footage shows at least 100. I would guess there were 200. If 200 people is a "modest" crowd for a Cheyenne political rally, what, pray tell, is a large one? I live in the wonderful Gillette, Wyoming, Energy Capital of America, and around these parts we support Ron Paul! "

Less A wrote on Oct 29, 2007 11:18 PM:

" Why does so much of the mainstream media have such a hard time offering the fair and unbiased coverage by WTE of Ron Paul's campaign? Thanks for reminding other media outlets what it means to be a journalist. "

Tracy Saboe wrote on Oct 29, 2007 10:53 PM:

" Modest I think means 100s. Search for the You Tube Videos. There was another article that said hundreads. Hundreads sounds modest in places like Seatle and Detroit, and NYC. But in Wyoming, that's a huge crowd! "

Nathan A. wrote on Oct 29, 2007 7:35 PM:

" "Ron Paul (R-Texas) told a modest audience Sunday" One comment. To put this all in perspective: Ron Paul drew a crowd of around 300 people to this event. 80+ donated $500 or more to the campaign, that's 40K. While Duncan Hunter, another Candidate, had a fundraiser going on above Paul could hardly gather a handful of support. That's a stark contrast in my book. And a crowd of 300 isn't very modest when you consider that any other GOP contender would have a hard time bringing in that much attention, let alone enough passion to get people to drive from as far as Montana! The GOP needs Ron Paul to win the White House in '08.. America needs Ron Paul to remind us all what we once stood for as a nation. Join the cause today! Donate: http://www.RonPaul2008.com Get Active: http://ronpaul.meetup.com "

Shepard Humphries wrote on Oct 29, 2007 5:05 PM:

" How did Ron paul do at the GOP straw poll on 10-28-07? "

Curtis wrote on Oct 29, 2007 3:46 PM:

" Like Shepard Humphries, I too find it interesting that you use the word "modest" for the size of the crowd, where the Jackson Hole Star Tribune describes the same rally as drawing "several hundred" (http://www.jacksonholestartrib.com/articles/2007/10/29/news/wyoming/008a1ecce2ee5fa087257383000138d5.txt). Which term is more accurate? "

mike wrote on Oct 29, 2007 3:27 PM:

" The video of the event is on youtube. search ron paul wyoming and watch the one dated 10/28. Enjoy! "

Ron Paul 2008 wrote on Oct 29, 2007 3:27 PM:

" What is a "modest" crowd size? Please use objective terms instead of ones open to interpretation. I'd like a numerical estimate please. "

mike wrote on Oct 29, 2007 3:25 PM:

" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8888575680543675980&q=ron+paul+wyoming&total=31&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 here is the video of the rally posted on youtube. This is no modest crowd. Enjoy! "

John wrote on Oct 29, 2007 2:27 PM:

" Ron Paul is fighting for freedom. The other candidates are fighting for power. If just 1% of America could grasp this basic understanding he would win this election by a landslide. Thanks for the good article. "

Michael St John wrote on Oct 29, 2007 1:23 PM:

" Very good article. Nice to see some truthful coverage from the media for a change. "

Freespirit wrote on Oct 29, 2007 12:36 PM:

" I suppose by prosperous and "Independant" America you mean we would become Isolationist??...People have short memories.Rep Dr.Ron Paul views reminds me of another "Fortress America" Politician that we've heard on the stump before.The last time America was "Independant" we got zapped at Pearl Harbor! "

Christa Driscoll wrote on Oct 29, 2007 11:44 AM:

" Thank you for a fair report on what Dr. Paul is actually speaking about. He's getting practically no media coverage, and what little he is getting always seems a little grudgingly positive... they try but they just can't find anything negative to say about the man. With a candidate like Ron paul we the people finally have the opportunity to elect an intelligent leader who will make wise choices and guide us towards a prosperous and economically stable and independant america. "

John wrote on Oct 29, 2007 11:34 AM:

" Thank you for this article, I only wish I could have known sooner, I have family up around them parts who would have loved to have went! "

Dan Jackson wrote on Oct 29, 2007 11:11 AM:

" Thank you for reporting the facts as you saw it without adding in insulting opinions like so many other journalists. You are to be commended. If anyone is interested in learning more about Ron, you can check out these websites: Official Campaign www.ronpaul2008.com Video Series Introducing Ron Paul http://www.ronpaulintro.com/ Largest collection of Ron Paul articles, speeches, and videos: http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/ A serious group of over 60,000 volunteers getting the word out: http://ronpaul.meetup.com/ "

Tres Melton wrote on Oct 29, 2007 10:59 AM:

" Thank you for the accurate article about Dr. Paul. I traveled from Colorado Springs to hear him speak and get him to autograph my copy of the Constitution and it was well worth the journey. "

Doug D wrote on Oct 29, 2007 10:45 AM:

" Nice article, but how did the "modest crowd" drawn by Ron Paul compare to the crowds drawn by other candidates? Another Wyoming paper said it was several hundred people. "

Matt Baker wrote on Oct 29, 2007 10:15 AM:

" From Kansans for Ron Paul, Thank-you for being there for us, it was like hearing him speak himself! WE ALL NEED THIS MODERN DAY THOMAS JEFFERSON to be our NEXT PRES. DO YOUR DUTY, SPREAD THE WORD, GOOGLE RON PAUL! SPREAD IT !!!! "

Shepard Humphries wrote on Oct 29, 2007 9:40 AM:

" I am curious about the crowd size... from "modest" I assume 15 or so people? "

William wrote on Oct 29, 2007 9:22 AM:

" Thank You for contributing to the media in the desirable way that each news reporter should REPORT -- without tilting the table to suit the agendas of anyone but the reader/viewer. "

J. Stephen Conn wrote on Oct 29, 2007 9:19 AM:

" As a former resident of Casper, Wyoming, currently stuck in Ohio,I am convinved that Ron Paul represents the true ideals of most of the freedom-loving people in the Cowboy State. He is the most principled person in politics and is America's best hope for a return to constitutional government. Thanks for the article. "

Paul Weber wrote on Oct 29, 2007 9:13 AM:

" I think the only thing that's a problem is many still don't know who Ron Paul is and what he stands for. He should win the presidency by a landslide, based on the issues. Google Ron Paul! "

Gloria Carroll wrote on Oct 29, 2007 9:05 AM:

" Thank you for your great article about the most respectable Congressman Ron Paul. I and my husband have never been so passionately involved in politics. After we saw Cong Ron Paul at George Stenaphalous Sunday show, we immediately google search him. From then on we join a local meet up group. When we join rallies and attend Ron Paul meet ups, we meet fellow volunteers who are democrats and independents. Congressman Paul unites us all. God bless America. Again thank you for your great article that will surely help us restore the Constitution through the leadership of the Champion of the Constitution, Congressman Ron Paul.God bless our country, the Great America. "

Shepard Humphries wrote on Oct 29, 2007 9:02 AM:

" Who won the straw poll at the LC GOP event last night? Anyone know the numbers? "

Gloria Carroll wrote on Oct 29, 2007 9:01 AM:

" Thank you for your great article about the most respectable Congressman Ron Paul. I and my husband have never been so passionately involved in politics. When we join rallies and attend Ron Paul meet ups, we meet fellow volunteers who are democrats and independent. Congressman Paul unites us all. God bless America. Again thank you for your great article that will surely help us restore the Constitution through the leadership of the Champion of the Constitution, Congressman Ron Paul.God bless our country, the Great America. "

Jake wrote on Oct 29, 2007 8:57 AM:

" I am a proud Wyoming resident (Gillette -- Energy Capital U.S.A.!) and I am also a proud Ron Paul supporter. I had one question after reading this article -- exactly how big was the "modest crowd"? I wish Mr Quester, who was presumably there, would have made a numerical estimate for the information of those of us who were not. However, I did my own research and found other attendees at the function estimate 200-300 Ron Paul supporters gathered. From what I can see and hear in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKVvgyIEqbQ&feature=PlayList&p=5542A2CB59DF18E1&index=0&playnext=1 , that estimate is probably realistic, though I can only see around 100 for sure in the footage. My guess would be around 200. If 200 excited and loud supporters is a modest-sized crowd for Cheyenne, what, pray tell, is a large one? Talkin' 'bout Cheyenne, not Denver! When was the last political rally held in Cheyenne with that level of enthusiasm and turn-out? "

Freespirit wrote on Oct 29, 2007 8:52 AM:

" Rep.Dr Ron Paul looks and sounds more like my science teacher than the next Coammander in Chief of this Nation.It's easy to say "get our boys back home from Iraq" Withdrawl right now would be to play into the terrorist hands.It would be a blood bath of a civil war.Our Allies would be lost to us.I checked out Rep.Paul's campaign website.He may have friends here in the Mid-West but I bet a different story when he heads to the North and Eastern States. "

Richard wrote on Oct 29, 2007 8:40 AM:

" We drove over from Casper for the rally. Nice article but I think he deserves way more coverage then he was given here. "

Ron Aldof wrote on Oct 29, 2007 8:29 AM:

" The choice is easy. Ron Paul for president! I watched CNN with Wolf Blitzer yesterday. He had on presidential candidate Huckabee. Huckabee is for a full escalation of the war into Iran. His words "at all costs". WOW! Is this what we have become. A war mongering nation? Lets get out of the Middle East bring our troops home and let them fight thier own battles over there. Also lets stop Nafta, Cafta, the WTO and all these foolish trade policies that are destroying our economy! "

Dave Kraus wrote on Oct 29, 2007 8:15 AM:

" Killing 650,000 men women,and children did not win their harts,and minds. "

Dan Warner wrote on Oct 29, 2007 8:07 AM:

" Great article! I like how the woman said 'we can do it'. We being those of us who support Ron Paul. We have to get to work. We have to knock on doors and wake up the neighbors and let them know that there IS a difference this time! If this is the first time you have run into Ron Paul's name, do yourself and your country a favor and visit his web site to read about his positions. I think you will have a pleasant surprise! Finally an honest and intelligent man running for president! http://www.ronpaul2008.com "

MW wrote on Oct 29, 2007 8:03 AM:

" Good article Mr. Questor. The crowd may not have been huge in size, but reports indicate that the audience was energetic and responded to Ron Paul's message. A different course in foreign policy is badly needed, and no other candidates - R or D - seem willing to acknowledge it. "

Jess wrote on Oct 29, 2007 7:54 AM:

" A very good article. A news letter that tells the truth. Keep up the good work. "

DougB wrote on Oct 29, 2007 7:23 AM:

" Thank you for your clear reporting about Ron Paul's position on the war. I feel that no other candidate supports the troops better. That is perhaps the reason that Paul gets more military donations than any other candidate. Paul supports full funding for each mission including the body armor and vehicle plating we sometimes only get to our high-paid contractors like Blackwater. Paul supports reasonable analysis of each mission. He supports a renewed effort to go after bin Laden for instance (remember when that was the mission?) but believes we should modify our plans for interminable policing of Baghdad (much like the British who have succeeded in turning over policing back to the Iraqis in nearly every area . . . because they have no other "need" to keep a large presence in said areas). Paul is perhaps the only candidate that seems to openly listen to each report coming from our military in Iraq. He is informed, honest, and reasonable. Some of the other candidates seem to have chosen a foreign policy that they neither re-consider in light of current reports nor even seem to understand very well. "

Michael D wrote on Oct 29, 2007 7:12 AM:

" Thank you for the excellent article. Yes, Ron Paul is going to emphasize the things that he will resist doing as president, but you should also note that he has resisted such things in the 20 years he's been in congress as well. His track record demonstrates that he is indeed a principled man who will follow the Constitution. Americans do understand that the Constitution makes a difference. If we were to follow it (or more correctly, if congress were to) then our country would thrive again and be secure. If you agree with his platform, please donate to his official site, RonPaul2008.com. "

Darryl Schmitz wrote on Oct 29, 2007 6:41 AM:

" Thank you for the good article. There is huge support for the Paul campaign that the polls and media are not recognizing due to obsolete survey sampling and journalism paradigms that don't react quickly enough to rapid change in the social-political landscape. A few of the more nimble news organizations are staring to realize what an enormous historic event is starting to unfold, and they are researching his positions on the issues carefully, realizing that there's amazing substance to this guy's principles. People are tired of caustic, corrupt politics. Ross Perot and others tapped into it from a populist perspective, but Ron Paul has the power of the Constitution on his side! "

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