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Skywalk agreement reached

By Jodi Rogstad

jrogstad@wyomingnews.com

CHEYENNE - The mayor and two developers have reached a verbal agreement to share the costs to build a controversial skywalk that supporters say is essential to revitalizing a blighted downtown block.

Now it's time for the City Council to look at the pact for the $1.3 million elevated walkway.

Monday, the council's Finance Committee will vote on whether to recommend approval of the contract. Regardless of the outcome, it will move to the full council for its Jan. 14 meeting.

Mayor Jack Spiker called it "the most amazing contract."

"We don't pay for it until it's completely done," he said. "Our investment is known going in, period."

The city's share is $700,000. The contract says the city will pay no more than that. The money will come from the fifth-penny economic development fund.

But there's another $200,000 in public funding going into the project: The Downtown Development Authority and the Cheyenne-Laramie County Economic Development Joint Powers Board have pledged $100,000 apiece.

Developers for the two downtown projects benefiting from the skywalk will pay $400,000 and any cost overruns.

The walkway will begin at an existing "punch out" in the downtown parking garage. This planned opening is more than 20 feet above the ground.

It will span Carey Avenue and continue down the alley of the 200 block of West Lincolnway and West 17th Street, ending at Capitol Avenue.

It will connect to the long-vacant Hynds building on the corner of West Lincolnway and Capitol, as well as a new hotel proposed for the vacant spot in the middle of that block where Wyoming Home once stood.

Building a sheltered path to parking will make the high-market rates more palatable to tenants, says a developer who wants to remodel the long-vacant Hynds building into restaurants, shops and office space.

Dave Kempf, manager of Outback Investments, the firm that bought the Hynds, says he has scrapped plans to turn the upper stories into condominiums over concerns from the state about keeping the historic integrity.

"It wasn't a battle we wanted to fight," he said.

Instead, these will be offices. The ground floor will house a restaurant and four retail shops.

If the council approves the contract, the construction plans will be submitted for the city's review within 30 days, he said.

"(The skywalk agreement) is our only hold-up," Kempf said. "We're not waiting on funding."

He says the total cost of remodeling will be $7.2 million, and the building could be open for business by March of next year.

An official from Capital Management, the firm that wants to build an extended-stay Marriott hotel, has said a safe passage for hotel guests is essential to the project. Without it, there's no interest to build it downtown.

In all, Hynds will lease 70 parking spaces a month in the city garage; the Marriott will lease 86. Spiker said this will bring in $84,000 a year in revenue.

The contract says Capital Management and Outback Investments will build the skywalk in accordance with city codes. The city will own and maintain it.

The public may use it too, Spiker said, through the accesses at the parking garage and Capitol Avenue. Other businesses on the block, north and south of the walkway, may also tap into it, though none plan to do so yet.

Hynds has been vacant since the 1980s. Then the block was dealt a blow in December 2004 when Wyoming Home furnishings store was destroyed by fire, which began in the basement of the adjacent Mary's Bake Shoppe.

Investigators say arson was the cause; a jailed suspect was set free last year after charges against him were dropped.

Wyoming Home has since relocated to a historic building next door, made famous by Tom Horn. No plans have been announced for the sliver of land still owned by bakery owner Mary Coonts. The city has a lien on this property.

Opponents to using taxpayer money to build a skywalk have been vocal; the city should pass on this offer if developers don't want to pay for a skywalk themselves, they say.

Councilman Jim Brown says at the heart of their protests, they believe the city is being blackmailed into this agreement by the Marriott and Hynds developers.

But he says the project is the right thing to do.

"I think it's necessary," Brown said. "It's one of those things where the administration is dammed if they do, dammed if they don't.

"People get upset if you don't help downtown. If you try to entice businesses, they get mad too."

A $700,000 concession isn't anything new, Brown said, adding, "It happens all the time."

He pointed out that the state pledged $21 million to NCAR to locate a supercomputer in Cheyenne.

Spiker calls the skywalk infrastructure that will aid economic development.

"The Marriott and Hynds could become a downtown anchor," he said. "It certainly can't hurt. An empty hole can't generate anything."

He said lease revenue for the Hynds is projected at $2.3 million in the first three years; the Marriott expects $6 million.

Sales tax from construction will approach $1 million. He says a low estimate for annual property taxes would be $128,250.

"If this is blackmail, then we've been robbed several times by the business parks," Spiker said.

Public funds bought the land and built the intersections, water lines and roads for the Cheyenne Business parkway and the North Range Business Park, he said.

"There is no difference here," he said. "It's all a mechanism to attract more economic development. You've got to provide infrastructure or you're not going to attract those jobs."




Reader Comments

The Mike wrote on Jan 15, 2008 8:57 AM:

" REPEAT!!! Have a state of the art taxi service for downtown! Or, if the Marriott thinks they are so special, they should have valet service and use the new empty garage as parking spaces!! VALET SERVICE IN CHEYENNE WOULD BE A FIRST!! OOPS, I forgot about the valet service for the convicts. "

Vision wrote on Jan 13, 2008 10:42 AM:

" Some people have it and others don't. Thank God our current administration does!! Hopefully they won't be run out by the folks that support Laybourne and Mockler! "

TO CHEYENNE IDIOTS wrote on Jan 12, 2008 10:48 PM:

" I WANT THIS WHOLE TOWN ON SKYWALKS! I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK ABOVE THIS CITY AND SPIT MY LOOGIES ALL OVER THE SIDEWALKS FROM A LONG DISTANCE SO THAT I CAN HEAR IT SPLAT AND KNOW THAT IT CAME FROM ME. THEN ON MY WAY HOME, I WANT TO DRIVE DRUNK ON THE SKYWALKS AND TALK TO MY FRIENDS ON THE CELL PHONE WHILE DOING SO AND BLOW MY SMOKE ALL OVER CHEYENNE AND THANK THE FAIRYTALE GOD THAT THERE ISN'T A DARN THING THAT YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!!! I DARE YOU TO TRY. "

Explains wrote on Jan 12, 2008 5:02 PM:

" HILLSDALE!!! THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!!! LAPDLOSER!!! "

Michael Milliron wrote on Jan 12, 2008 9:50 AM:

" This is getting absurd. I have lived here since december of 1982. I came here to visit my sister and her husband from Louisiana and when I arrived there must have been two feet of snow on the ground at the old bus station down-town.

I have now after nearly twenty-seven years have become adapted to the climate and I don't see why there needs to be sky-walks or bubbles placed over or around this city that has become my home and where all three of my children were born and where my wife grew up.

Why should there be concessions made for those entering a county and city that was born out of grit and harshness. There are some of you that consider yourselves to be part of the pioneering families that started Cheyenne and Wyoming and yet even you have become soft and have lost your back-bone to not stand up to this wasteful spending.

And if you believe that the Marriot will not offer any better quality than the other tired hotels and they too will go through countless Chef's and staff.

"

Greyhair wrote on Jan 12, 2008 7:59 AM:

" I went into the tunnels with a gas mask many years ago. They are filled with rubble about 15th and Carey. The tunnels run from the depot to St. Mary's and from O'Niel on 16th to Evans. They also run along 15th St from Snyder to to the depot. They have been filled with rubble over the years but many downtownj buildings like the Plains, Majestic, Hynds and the building housing the hotel and the Crown bar are connected and the arched entries can still be seen in many basements. "

True Leadership wrote on Jan 12, 2008 6:33 AM:

" The skywalk deal… to me sounds slightly fishy. However, if the cost and benefits are as transparent as they appear to be, then I’m for it. If it turns out to be a bad business deal, then those arranging it should be held accountable and not re-elected. We’re paying these people (our local government) to be more informed and responsible on these issues than the hundreds of us web-pundits can claim to be, and if they cannot, then it should be remembered and they should be replaced. The proof will be in the pudding. Cheyenne’s success is only to be found in taking bold but calculated steps. "

True Leadership wrote on Jan 12, 2008 6:32 AM:

" I am new to Cheyenne. I am not an old timer, but I’m young enough that I think I can speak for the youth in some respect. Cheyenne has a lot going for it. Believe it or not, its geographic position is IDEAL for a bountiful future as a gateway to the striking Wyoming wilderness as well as the hopping urban life of Denver and the front range. If Cheyenne as a small city is going to make a bigger mark, it must do so in its own unique way, and not by attempting to capitalize on what the rest of the front range has become.
We both do not WANT to and simply CANNOT become another Denver, or Fort Collins. In my mind, downtown development is important to this goal. Investing in the infrastructure to support and attract investment is required. Outside investment is the ONLY thing that is going to fuel a forward moving Cheyenne, and not tax payer money running a circle through the economy. That needs to be the focus, and in my opinion the city has made SOME significant strides toward that end. "

Ralphinphnx wrote on Jan 11, 2008 10:44 PM:

" So, I would respectfully disagree
here about the tunnels
under the old Plains
Hotel and Wyoming Home
Block being abandoned
"50 years ago" since as I recall it would be more like around
30 years at the longest and as to any
abestoes in them,that
would still cost far
less to remove then
what everyone on earth
knows will become a
couple million bucks
of taxpayer money that King Skywalker &
His Court Jesters will
end of wasting on the
Skywalk. "

Move forward Cheyenne wrote on Jan 11, 2008 9:41 PM:

" Give it 20-25 years and downtown Cheyenne will largely be totally redeveloped and full of skywalks like the Twin Cities. Those days cannot come soon enough as West Lincolnway is blighted and like a dying RustBelt City ghetto. It starts at
Capitol Avenue with the Wrangler and the Hynds Building all the way west past Missle and out past the Hitching Post. The sooner all those ugly tax providing deficient properties are torn down and scraped away out of existence and the land redeveloped into something the community, state, and region can be proud of and will utilize the better life will be here in the northern outpost of the Front Range Metropolitan Area. Think $$$, and more of them for more citizens in this community. "

subscriber wrote on Jan 11, 2008 3:32 PM:

" The "tunnels" that were built to carry steam in the downtwon area were abandoned when the steam plant was shut down, like 50 years or so ago. If I were a betting man, I'd bet that the majority of them have collapsed or been filled over the years. I'd also bet that there is a lot of asbestos down there, too. Not a viable alternative. I'm having trouble accepting a skywalk, but if we can get that awful hole filled in on 16th street for leass than a million of taxpayers money, maybe it should be done. "

just wondering wrote on Jan 11, 2008 3:31 PM:

" Why is Mary being victimized? If we have now proven (although it sounds like a bad job by the lead detective blew the case) that she didn't cause the fire, then why is she still being harassed? I am honestly asking...so if you know the true answer fill me in, thanks "

Ralphinphnx wrote on Jan 11, 2008 1:30 PM:

" TO Whynot: Yes indeed
there are some large
already built tunnels
under both the old
Wyoming Home Block &
The Plains Hotel Block
that your right could
be cleaned up and used
to accomplish the same
purpose as Skywalker's
Costly Skywalks! These
Tunnels were built for
the old steam lines,
when downtown Cheyenne
had steam heat that
was generated at the
old CLFP Power Plant
on West 17th Street so
see ask any old timer
Cheyenne resident or
former resident and we
can tell you amazing
things about your city.






"

LAPDWayne wrote on Jan 11, 2008 11:42 AM:

" Thank you for your answer back Mr. Mike
Milliron. I do apologize for not responding sooner. I
really do wish I could run for office here, but I live in
Hillsdale so the only one available is the
county commissioner seat. Mrs. Gay Woodhouse is already doing that and Mr. Knudson might run for
re-election. I am new here, moved up from CA
back in April 07 so I am still learning things. I will be at the city council meeting on Monday 1-14
to observe how they act anf govern this city. Happy New Year Mr. Milliron and too bad you can't or won't run niether. "

J. wrote on Jan 11, 2008 8:53 AM:

" I think the city and the developer are both nuts, but if they think they can make downtwon Cheyenne prosper, I say go for it. The City may make their money back. For the poeple that blame the City for underage drinking and teenage pregnancy, don't be ridiculous. You could build Disney World Wyoming here and nothing would change. PARENTS need to create events or activities that catch the interest of their teens not the City. "

Chey Born wrote on Jan 11, 2008 8:50 AM:

" It is apparent by all the comments that everybody has their own “neighborhood agenda” and rightfully so. I was born in Cheyenne and know that with all its problems it is still the best city anywhere to live, work, and raise children. Of course, parents have to parent those children. People should hang on a little longer & Spiker’s reign of his personal legacy will be finally over. Fix the curbs/sidewalk downtown on 17th Street, & give the youths playing baseball on the numerous baseball fields decent, clean bathrooms & snack shacks. Smaller projects but important. Instead the Major sees that the curbs are over done on 16th Street for miles and builds a beautiful baseball park strictly for the American Legion baseball team.
Again………hang on. Soon he will be GONE. Meanwhile, it doesn’t help to be a crybaby like some of these people are. Find something to do & get a life. Maybe spelling lessons would keep some of these people busy.
"

A Huntley wrote on Jan 11, 2008 12:01 AM:

" Hmmm lets waste more money that could be going to better things in this city... lets see things for kids to do so they aren't out having sex drinking and doing drugs... or how bout fix the roads... hmm i can think of a lot better things to spend money on than this!!! I really think the city officals should think about that.... Worry more about our teen pregnancy rate teen drinking rate and drug usage than a darn sky walk "

Ralphinphnx wrote on Jan 10, 2008 11:45 PM:

" So I heard a report
that Kenny Rodgers is
working on a new song
to honor Skywalker,
and that it goes kinda
along the lines of,
"On a Skywalk to nowhere I met up with
Mayor Skywalker one
dark and windy night..." Oh well I'm
sure ya'll get the
picture by now don't
you? The Frontier Days
Committee wants to have Kenny Rodgers
do it at CFDs 2008! "

citizen wrote on Jan 10, 2008 4:18 PM:

" I am not against the skywalk. I just think that there are a whole lot of things that need to be and should be fixed. Fix them first and then if they want a skywalk, build it. "

Born and Raised in Cheyenne wrote on Jan 10, 2008 4:04 PM:

" If the city fathers would have listened to the Starks back in the '70's, we'd have a thriving downtown. Now that the parking is there why not close 17th from Warren to Pioneer and make it a mall? Starks went so far as to start laying pavers for their sidewalk. i wish I could have voted back then!

Anything north of the airport is nothing more than one chain after another. Whatever happened to the mom and pop shops of America. Oh, I forgot, you all shop at walmart now. Well you get what you pay for. "

Why not? wrote on Jan 10, 2008 11:25 AM:

" Why doesn't the city open up the underground tunnels and use the infrastructure that is already in place? If you are so worried about walking ONE block in the snow and wind, then WY is not the place for you anyway! Unseal the tunnels, clean them up and put them to good use. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that a tunnel already exists along this block. Let us use it! "

Michael Milliron wrote on Jan 10, 2008 8:46 AM:

" To Wayne I would have to say , regretably no. Although I am in some ways a stubborn and opinionated souther boy through and through some may view me as another Pete Laybourn without all the hysteria and antics. I know this Council , Commission and other agencies have had secrets for years , one's that they pass off as personnel issues and closed door sessions.

I know that some of these discussions have been held at places such the Hitching Post Inn when Legislators are in session and at Uncle Charlies Lounge where Tom Segrave has been known to frequent. After all where else could you find in one bar Judges , District Attorney's , Lawyers and a majority of the elite of Cheyenne other than the Country Club and T-Joe's where it has been known that our County Sheriff has been known to frequent in past years. I also know that there has been long standing agreements between certain long established restaurants and the Health Department Inspectors and how they get by with yearly inspections instead of like everyone else every six month's. The list goes on. Thanks for the inquiry though. "

What? wrote on Jan 10, 2008 8:23 AM:

" Yeah, like the Little America Convention Center will compete with the likes of Caspers and Ft. Collins ... get a life ... this town needs an actual convention center that can bring in out of state business, winter concerts and many other things to keep Cheyenne, the capital city!!! Little America ... whatever ... move to freaking Burns if you don't want any change! "

David wrote on Jan 10, 2008 6:17 AM:

" This whole thing is a big load of stuff. I drive on streets here in Cheyenne everyday that have potholes big enough to knock the axles off my semi. I also can't even get the city o plow or sand my street. My house is on a hill side and the street is really slippery. I have to park my truck aiming down hill so I don't have to back up againsts traffic. Guess what I got? A parking warning. Just plow and sand so I can park safely and I will. "

Cheyenne Skywalk Capitol Of The World wrote on Jan 10, 2008 4:34 AM:

" RT so you mean that your not in favor of
making Cheyennne WY
the "Skywalk Capitol
of the World" here?
So,RT I'm glad to see
your on the same page
with the rest of us
including me here,as
Mayor Skywalker Jack
Spiker and His Band of
Rubber Stamps want to
spend taxmoney like
President George W Bush,totally out of
control and on such
nonsense as these crazy costly skywalks. "

Think about it wrote on Jan 10, 2008 1:54 AM:

" Thank you to those who have vision for the future. After recently visiting Spokane, I would like to share with the naysayers that their downtown area has several walk overs. You can shop the entire downtown without going outside and risking falling down on the ice and snow.
I for one think this is a wonderful idea.
It makes me wonder if those who are opposed want any type of growth? "

Gone forever wrote on Jan 9, 2008 8:29 PM:

" To we can't stagnate:
You are so right about you last posting. I was born in Cheyenne in 1953 left in 1987, graduated in 71. In these years nothing was built for us kids, nothing! and what was there, the building that's home to the CFD museum at Frontier Park, the little white building in Holiday Park, West of Big Boy train. These buildings once had dances for high school kids to attend and have fun, the one at Frontier Park even had big name bands play there, REO Speedwagon for one, but the city took them. Lyons park use to have a rope(It was called the rope) tied to a branch, kids would jump from the tree to see how many they could put on this rope, the city cut it down, branch included. These things wern't much but alot for the youth of the 60's and 70's, something to do and didn't cost alot. So kids were left with nothing. Drinking became more popular. Drugs to!
Cruising the Owl Inn was banned or people were harrassed by the police.
Stagnation in Cheyenne has been going on for years not just today. "

LAPDWayne wrote on Jan 9, 2008 3:36 PM:

" I have question for Mr
Mike Miliron:
Are you going to run for mayor or one of the city council spots
??????????????? I am just curious, thats all. I cannot put in for anything because I live outside of Cheyenne. "

sporker wrote on Jan 9, 2008 11:42 AM:

" 1/8/07 WTE Skywalk moves forward: ”What are the plans for the remaining sliver of vacant land where Mary's Bake Shoppe once stood, Valdez asked.” Isn’t Councilman Valdez aware that Mayor Jack Spiker and the Cheyenne City Council initiated a lawsuit against Mary Coonts on 3/31/07? Pay attention Jimmy! "You're going to have to have something there, it's got to be settled pretty soon," Valdez said. "It does not make sense to have that hole there." The 22 foot wide hole that will be directly between the proposed Marriott TownePlace Suites and the Hynds Building. ”Bradshaw said he agrees, but the city and the bakery owner, Mary Coonts, are still in litigation over who is responsible for paying for tearing down the charred remains of the building.” The litigation that now is in the Wyoming Supreme Court. "

sporker wrote on Jan 9, 2008 11:38 AM:

" 1/8/07 WTE Skywalk moves forward: “Valdez asked the city's special projects director, Bob Bradshaw, if the walkway could be funded by grants instead. The city applied for a Wyoming Business Council grant last spring, but didn't succeed.” The WBC turned down the grant because the economic gain and employment wages projected were not viable. ”That's why the city negotiated "to the pain of the developers," Bradshaw said, to have them pay a share of the cost.” What about the pain inflicted on Mary Coonts as a result of the 12/27/04 fire and the illegal City of Cheyenne demolition of her property? "

RT wrote on Jan 9, 2008 11:35 AM:

" This is sad, purely a case of ONE landowner blackmailing the City. Something like, "If you don't help me build the skywalk, we will just leave the Hynds building empty!" This whole project will end up benefiting exactly ONE landowner and even that benefit is highly questionable. Want to modernize downtown? How about closing a couple streets to traffic and creating a "walking mall" area similar to what has happened in downtown Fort Collins? This stupid skywalk will do NOTHING to rejuvenate downtown! See Ralph? We actually agree on something! "

Michael Milliron wrote on Jan 9, 2008 10:35 AM:

" For all of you that believe that I have nothing but discontent an hatred for this City of Cheyenne , I want to apologise. It is not the case.

I believe that Cheyenne is worth salvaging but not at the present course by those in charge. It has been clear that our children are not their concern or the 65 % of the voting population either.

What matters and has always matter to our politicians is those that live within the top 15 % of Laramie County and Cheyenne. Fore they are the true voice of this State , County and City. I have grown to love Cheyenne as I did Louisiana but just like Louisiana we have had our share of politicians that are by far questionable. Maybe some of you thought these people have had your best interest at heart when you voted for them and out side of their office they are fine folks. But as represenatives they have but one agenda and that is to stay in office where they can inflate their own arrogance and ego's. Because they couldn't cut it doing anything else. "

Observer wrote on Jan 9, 2008 10:05 AM:

" Poor, poor Marriott. I feel so badly for them. Heck, they can barely make ends meet. According to their 2006 financial report, it shows they only had $12 Billion in revenue with a year end profit of only $700 million. No wonder Spiker and his gang are trying to help them out. With all the extra money our city coffers I'm surprised we're not paying for the brick and mortar too. "

We can't stagnate wrote on Jan 9, 2008 9:54 AM:

" The problem with Cheyenne is that it is a relatively old community and by that I mean the population. We have way too many older people that either want to keep Cheyenne the way it was during the 70s or have the attitude of "I'm not going to use that whay do we need it." (i.e., ice rink and rec center) These people are from the era where they went to work, had bowling league on night, spent another night of heavy drinking at the Elks/Moose/Eagles etc., and the remainder of the week was spent in font of the TV. Young adults now want more than that. We want a revitatlized downtown, we want more recreation (Cheyenne is woefully inadequate in this area) and we want more opportunities to prosper. Through attrition, we might be able to accomplish these things in the future. But right now, with the older generation in Cheyenne, it will be hard for the city to grow. Progress is just not in some of these people's vocabulary. "

To .....WOW wrote on Jan 9, 2008 8:43 AM:

" You said... "our town Cheyenne has no convention center? You are sadly misinformed, I suggest you drive out to Little America and check out what has been under construction the past several months. "

You got to be kidding wrote on Jan 9, 2008 8:16 AM:

" Cheyenne will take 1.3 million dollar to use for a stupid sidewalk but they won't use the money to pay for additional trucks and employees to remove snow. Now that is pathetic. They want us a citizens to pay more so they can do crap like this. It's really rediculous. I have lived in Cheyenne all my life and I will be the first one to say this city is stupid how they run things. "

hey Rolando wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:58 PM:

" You know and I know that not even our grand children will get to play at the south park. I hope I am wrong. "

ot people, people, people wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:50 PM:

" You know at least any person young or old, and rich or poor in Cheyenne can benefit from the pond on Central and Warren during the winter. Just how many kids have enjoyed sledding these past years. I know when I was a kid we had to go 40 miles west to freeze and come home 20 minutes later. I don't think i will ever have the need to use the walk.
I think most people object to this project. I have not heard one positive comment. I have asked around too. "

Why? wrote on Jan 8, 2008 9:53 PM:

" Why is it that residents in Cheyenne only want our city to get money through Frontier Days? Why is it residents do not want a better looking, money making Cheyenne? Heck, renovate all of downtown and make it modern! I wonder if these people who don't want change are still angry because they can't ride their horses downtown and have shoot outs on dirt filled streets! "

Hmm... wrote on Jan 8, 2008 9:51 PM:

" A better looking Cheyenne that will draw more business ... the same old ugly Cheyenne that will never draw business unless it's Frontier week ... I'd take the first choice!!! Cheyenne, it's time to get out of the Old West and into the 21st Century! "

citizen wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:46 PM:

" I think they should use the money to fix the streets all over the city. That is what needs to come first. All of them are really bad with many potholes. Fix the things that need to be fixed first then build a skywalk if needed. "

Ralphinphnx wrote on Jan 8, 2008 6:55 PM:

" Thumbs down on the new
costly,endless pork
barrel and giantic
Memorial to Mayor
Skywalker Jack Spiker
Legacy as the world's
champion skywalk builder of all times. "

What a waste wrote on Jan 8, 2008 2:44 PM:

" Instead of a Skywalk I would much rather see a sidewalk on Parsley. Several people walk along there and have to walk in mud or they can walk in the street when no cars are coming. I think the money should be spent more wisly. "

Bad Idea wrote on Jan 8, 2008 2:38 PM:

" Why on earth would you pore money into the skywalk when there are some many unfinished projects started already? And why would you not put the money in the Cheyenne streets, to name a few - Missile Drive, Parsley and so on. I travel Missile Drive daily and have for years, that road is in need of major repairs. BUT THE MONEY WHERE IT IS REALLY NEEDED. "

Wow wrote on Jan 8, 2008 2:17 PM:

" Oh my goodness ... 99.9% of you complaining about this won't even notice anything in prices due to the tax ... nothing! But let's be the cheyenne people that we are and complain about anything that will make our city look better and look more like a capital city should look ... I have an idea, let's have casper get something like this so they continue to looke more like a capital city than us here in Cheyenne! It's time for our residents in this wonderful city to acknowledge that change is needed and needed badly. Our downtown is ugly, our town has no convention center and we have too many police officers giving out speeding tickets to people who deserve them ... GROW UP CHEYENNE, IT'S THE 21ST CENTURY NOT THE 19TH CENTURY! "

Michael Milliron wrote on Jan 8, 2008 2:05 PM:

" The Council is allocating money for a Skywalk on the premiss that Marriot may build. No one from Marriot has guaranteed that they will and if I had anything to e-mail the Directors of Marriot they wouldn't.

What really does Cheyenne have to offer but a laughing stock City Council that is stright out of a vaudville show and the same could be said of the Commission. A lame and tiresome CFD that has lost it's attraction and this is evident in the past ten years of tourism down fall.

My question is , how many incentives is the City offering to any business to locate to Cheyenne and how many tax dollars will it cost the citizens for the Council to save face. "

3cg4k wrote on Jan 7, 2008 8:15 PM:

" Only stupid people live in Cheyenne. "

LAPDWayne wrote on Jan 7, 2008 2:17 PM:

" Cost is only 700,000
and every year the city gets back 84,000
on the parking alone.
Plus another nice restaurant and some more shops for people.
Revenue from the Hynds is projected at over 2 million and from the Marriott will be over 6 million by 2011. Then add the sales tax and property tax that will go back to the city and state. Last but not least, the state pledged 21 million for NCAR to place a computer system in cheyenne.
And people complain because of an overhead
walkway??????????????
Cost is only 700,000
and this city and state gets all that money in return. Also hundreds,if not thousands of visitors and more new jobs mean even more revenue for the city. And people are complaining about an overhead walkway??????
I guess a huge empty
hole and empty buildings looks better for some people.

"

sporker wrote on Jan 7, 2008 11:58 AM:

" “koonts wrote on Jan 6, 2008 4:35 PM: " This is a no-brainer, go for it. " Mary wrote on Jan 6, 2008 4:34 PM: PartIII: Just do it! " Somebody is playing games. Please learn how to spell. Here is a clue. Mary Coonts instead of Koonts. Good luck!

"

native daughter wrote on Jan 7, 2008 7:28 AM:

" Spiker, you are barely out of one mess, and starting another. Do you really see a bronze statue of yourself at the Depot? Mary, our prayers are STILL with you, hang in there. Shame on you Spiker and your greedy invester pals. Stop making Cheyenne what YOUR image of our small town should be. "

Ralphinphnx wrote on Jan 7, 2008 5:09 AM:

" So will Mayor Skywalker Jack Spiker's Role Models
President George W Bush and VP Draft Dodger Cheney attend the Groundbreaking for
the Memorial & Legacy
"Mayor Skywalker Jack
Spiker Grandiose
Skywalk to Nowhere"
or the Mayor and City
Council insist on
getting Amnesty John
McCain,or Illegal Amnesty Barack Hussien
Obama or Hillary Clinton or The Huckster Huckabee or
Der Mittser Rominey
come be the featured
speaker for this total
waste of Cheyenne Tax
Money? Will Pete Laybourn Boycott the
Event? "

CO$T wrote on Jan 6, 2008 9:33 PM:

" I'm glad the naysayers are no longer in charge of this community. "

Private/Public? wrote on Jan 6, 2008 8:42 PM:

" If we can build a skywalk with taxpayer dollars to take prisoners from the County jail across Pioneer to the County building why can't we build a skywalk with private/public dollars to take honest tax paying citizens from the new parking structure to the Marriott or Hynds building? "

citizen wrote on Jan 6, 2008 8:26 PM:

" When this was being considered before, I said it was stupid and use the money for repairing roads or something important. It is still a stupid to spend money on this skywalk. "

Pat B. wrote on Jan 6, 2008 7:42 PM:

" I want to say "thank you" to the City for their vision and hard work to BRING in NEW business to Cheyenne. Economic Development is a key factor for any city who wants to grow. Let's stop criticizing every plan that is presented. I can't even imagine what outsiders must think of the people of Cheyenne. I hope we continue to elect those with good business sense and NOT full of nonsense. "

Rolando Sanchez wrote on Jan 6, 2008 7:26 PM:

" Take that 700k and build the park on the south side first! City Council and Mayor, you Sirs/Maams are a shame to representation. "

Wake kiss your money bye bye wrote on Jan 6, 2008 7:05 PM:

" Did you all notice that all your money has grown wings and is now flying away from within your wallets and handbags, thats right...your hard earned dollars! are now going to build a PORK project like this and not one of the people has ANY say in the matter.
Could all of you give me some of your money since you are letting someone else steal it from you. I'll only ask for $500,000 dollars. Who said it, "a sucker is born every minute" more like a city is suckered every city council meeting. "

Dan wrote on Jan 6, 2008 6:51 PM:

" I appreciate this administrations investment in jobs. Whether it be the LEADS business parks, Dell Range or downtown. The City has seen several successes, Lowe's, WalMart, Olive Garden, Kohl's, NCAR and now a 13-14 million dollar investment in the Hynds building and the new Marriott hotel. All as a result of the City Council's investment in Cheyenne. "

bn citizen wrote on Jan 6, 2008 6:37 PM:

" REMEMBER things are not what they appear ... beware fair citizens...and cast a wary eye. "

Confused wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:52 PM:

" Doesn't matter what anyone says or does here. What Mayor Skywalker (and the WTE) wants Mayor Skywalker gets so don't waste your time on this subject. Just move on. It's just a good thing he doesn't want a palace built for the Mayor!!!!! And the WTE can "pretend" to have concerns but you can bet your bottom dollar the WTE wants it, bad!!!!! "

Finally wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:50 PM:

" Finally, after 25 years a plan to put the Hynds building back onto the tax rolls. I give the city council an "A plus"! "

What business wants wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:41 PM:

" I guess the mayor gives businesses what they want. Can I get a sunroom added onto my house if I promise to have friends over to barbeque? It will be a great value increase for my property and the surrounding houses which will increase the property taxes we all pay. Is that enough to get you to waste money on me like you are on these businesses? They are spending tons of money to renovate and rebuild these buildings but they refuse to pay the full amount for direct access to the parking structure. What a HUGE waste of taxpayer money. "

Way to go! wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:27 PM:

" Great job Mayor Spiker for another great project on moving the city forward. $700,000 is nothing when you compare what the city will get out of it, plus the additional $84,000 from the leased parking spots. People say the Cheyenne downtown needs to be more like Ft. Collins, but yet, residents dont want to spend money to get developers to come here. Cant have it both ways! Way to go mayor, hope the council approves this project! "

Jeff wrote on Jan 6, 2008 4:55 PM:

" Will the "Walk Way" have a elavator that people in wheelchairs can use? The ICON Center was allowed to open without an elavator, then when one was put in an ADULT power chair won't FIT!! Way to go "JACK" great planning for people that are DISABLED!!! "

Dace F. wrote on Jan 6, 2008 4:53 PM:

" I support the investment in our downtown. It's a small amount compared to the return. I also support the pro-growth Council. "

97 wrote on Jan 6, 2008 4:41 PM:

" its nice to see that the city has its stuff together rather than fix roads they spend money on junk fix the roads and side wakes you wouldn't have to build this stuff i dont know about all of you but i think its time for a change and i hope spiker is frist to go "

koonts wrote on Jan 6, 2008 4:35 PM:

" This is a no-brainer, go for it. "

Mary wrote on Jan 6, 2008 4:34 PM:

" PartIII: Just do it! "

Ann wrote on Jan 6, 2008 3:07 PM:

" I agree that we need to help downtown but are we going to help each business downtown to this amount? I think it should be an across the board amount to each downtown business not a huge amount to a few businesses. "

people, people, people wrote on Jan 6, 2008 2:55 PM:

" Come on guys! I think it's great what the mayor is doing to this town. At least he is doing something more than building a pond on central and warren. Besides, if you think the council men and mayor and so darn ignorant, please proofread what you write before posting anything... you look incredibly stupid bashing the town when you have thousands of misspellings. "

Woooooooooo! wrote on Jan 6, 2008 2:49 PM:

" Don't listen to the naysayers. If Pete Lamebourn is against it, you know you're on the right track. "

DM wrote on Jan 6, 2008 2:32 PM:

" SO, I'm from out of town, where in the heck am I supposed to park?? Not like they have adequate parking downtown Cheyenne!!! Glad I'm not paying for it, sounds like a scheme to make money. Spendinf money to make money....And if you relly think this project isn't going to cost 2 million your crazy!!!! "

sue wrote on Jan 6, 2008 2:29 PM:

" I like the way this administration and City Council is moving Cheyenne forward. "

Future! wrote on Jan 6, 2008 2:24 PM:

" This should bring out the rear view mirror crowd. All those that would want to return to the past. "

cheyenneer wrote on Jan 6, 2008 1:01 PM:

" Way to go! Finnally our downtown will have another great amenity to add to the list-Mayor, I sincerely say way to go!!! THANK-YOU!!!!!! "

The Mike wrote on Jan 6, 2008 11:56 AM:

" I still think this is not the best option. Use a taxi system to and from the hotel and garage. Require the hotel to pay or lease dedicated spaces in the garage and the city will make more money from both the spaces and the additional jobs created. I really don't think anyone will use the walk after they try it once and find out how frustrating it is to try to get through there, with baggage, not to mention large people. And everyone knows we have some very large people here per capita. If you don't believe me, look at the mayor! "

Good Golly-not again!! wrote on Jan 6, 2008 10:53 AM:

" Boy ol Boy...here come da "PORK" project.
To bad Cheyenne residents don't have a say or vote in these kind of projects. Maybe they should pass some kind of law that states spending X amount of dollars must be voted on by the registered taxpayers of Cheyenne. Sure would keep PORK projects like this under control "

Gavin wrote on Jan 6, 2008 10:40 AM:

" Great move for Cheyenne. The city spends $700,000,Cheyenne-Laramie County Economic Development Joint Powers Board have pledged $100,000 apiece board of and the developers pay $400,000 plus overruns. The return is the city gets ownership,$84,000 parking revenues and $128,250 taxes a year.Seems like a great investment. "

Cave wrote on Jan 6, 2008 9:31 AM:

" I'm looking forward to the CO$T tag team of Jack Quirk and Pete Laybourn attacking the City. Jack will say something lame like the City is being blackmailed and Pete will say he can't support the Skywalk because he found a crack in Pershing. "

sporker wrote on Jan 6, 2008 9:02 AM:

" Part II: The Wyoming Business Council originally turned down the $2 million skywalk grant request last May 2007. The jobs and wages that the skywalk would create were not competitive. The Memorandum Of Understanding Between The City Of Cheyenne, Capital Management and Outback Investments will require Cheyenne taxpayer funding. As contained in the 12/20/07 Council Agenda and Minutes: 2007-2010 1% Sales Tax is the tax vehicle for funding the skywalk. The five foot wide skywalk tube will not be available to the Cheyenne taxpayer during evening hours. The Cheyenne taxpayer will be required to have an electronic keycard for access. Only three entities will benefit from the skywalk. Wyoming Home, Capital Management, Inc., the developers of the Marriott TownePlace Suites and Outback Investments LLC, the owners of the Hynds Building. Do not forget the associated engineering and construction firms that will financially gain from this private and city pork barrel. Mayor Jack Spiker and the City Council will rubberstamp this corrupt venture. "

sporker wrote on Jan 6, 2008 9:00 AM:

" Part I: The 12/27/04 Cheyenne downtown fire “alleged” arson suspect was a former employee of Wyoming Home. Wyoming Home owner Sue Miller, “Vice President of the Downtown Development Authority” received $58,573.23 for financial fire rehabilitation of Wyoming Home and the fire damaged structure from the DDA. Wyoming Home and Sue Miller’s original DDA fire relief request, including demolition was $331,593.17. Cheyenne Detective Korber and Garrison violated the alleged arson suspect’s interrogation rights and caused the alleged suspect’s arson confession to be thrown out by Judge Arnold. Instead of Chief of Police “Senator” Bob Fecht running for a senate seat, he should have been supervising the detectives. Meanwhile the “alleged arson” is now a cold case. The Cheyenne city lawsuit filed against Mary Coonts concerning the illegal Cheyenne demolition of 206 W. Lincolnway is now in the Wyoming Supreme Court. Mayor Jack Spiker, Cheyenne City Council, city attorneys, and assorted city employees have spared no taxpayer expenses in their quest to destroy Mary Coonts and to seize her property. Her “sliver” of land at 206 W. Lincolnway is between the proposed Marriott and the Hynds Building. Mary Coonts has never been offered any “victims” rights assistance since the 12/27/04 fire. "

Looker wrote on Jan 6, 2008 9:00 AM:

" Is that Spiker or Bush in are City Office, contunie not listen to people that put in office instaed do what you want. "

Lisa wrote on Jan 6, 2008 8:54 AM:

" Wonder what Ralph thinks.... :rolling eyes: "

go-joe wrote on Jan 6, 2008 8:48 AM:

" I like what the City is doing. It appears in a very short time the City will recoup it's investment, sales tax, property tax, new jobs and parking revenue not to mention the revitalization of that block. "

So let me get this straight wrote on Jan 6, 2008 8:41 AM:

" We now have PUBLIC money to build a skywalk from a public garage, which never gets used except by people who have leased spots, to a building that hasn't been used since the 80's and a hole in the ground. With a "proposed" hotel, scrapped plan to build a condos and "maybe" now some shops and resturant and "possible" future redevelopment of the rest of downtown hinging on a cement slab in the sky?? This, along with this MORE PUBLIC garage space is going to be leased away. And John Q. Public will be ALLOWED to used it.. to go where?? Does the term PORK BARREL sound familiar. Could some of the city council own property next to this boon doogle? Sounds like Cheyenne's version of the Las Vegas Strip Tram System to nowhere. Because that where this SPIKERWAY is going to end up....nowhere. Guess the Plaque with his name on it will look good. "

Ralphinphnx wrote on Jan 6, 2008 7:45 AM:

" So the people of the
City of Cheyenne have
wimped out on stopping
Mayor Skywalker Jack
Spiker and Stooges
waste your taxmoney to
pay for a Grandiose
Memorial Legacy for
Skywalker Spiker that
these private developers should have
paid for building. So
why has Hell on Wheels
Cheyenne Wyoming all of a sudden become the
Wimps in a Baby Carriage City of The
Plains and rolled over
just like Madame Speaker Nancy Pelosi
and the Democrats do
for George W Bush and
Draft Dodger Cheney?
No wonder I'm ashamed
and embarassed to even
admit that I was born
there with such wimps
living in Cheyenne
nowdays. "

to mayor and council men three: wrote on Jan 6, 2008 6:46 AM:

" you are all so crazy I can not imagine this crap you want hanging over town. Who wants to stay down town--nothing there but spikers bed stores he could not manage. For crying out loud quite drinking your bath water, you all are making such a mess out of the town. Cahill Soccer field is another wild idea,whene is the vaiduct going to be started after kicking all those poor people out. You get the assinine ideas and never have the ok from the people you are to serve. No your years in office do not bring NO good to this town mayor and 3 councilmen, just a waste of our money !
"Here's to you to be gone fast" drink to my new years wish every one. You have not acomplised a dam thing in your time only now paying the hardship of Toco center from the poor investers. "

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