Blaze kills 100 animals
By Cary Snyder
csnyder@wyomingnews.com
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| MICHAEL SMITH/WTE A fire crew from Laramie County Fire District 2 sift through the rubble of a barn that burned down Tuesday night on Ketcham Road. About 100 animals died in the fire that started shortly before midnight in a barn owned by the Heschke family at 8118 Ketcham Road west of the city. The family believes one of the lambs got rambunctious and knocked over a heater, sparking the blaze. |
CHEYENNE - Pam Heschke had trouble answering the necessary but painful question when a firefighter asked her to put a dollar amount on the damage.
"You can't put a price on that kind of stuff," she said the morning after about 100 animals died in a fire that destroyed her family's barn.
Some of the animals were pets. Others were being raised for use by children in the Laramie County 4-H program.
Among those that died were three mares, a mini donkey, a calf, seven ewes, a ram, 10 pygmy goats, about 25 chickens and ducks and a goose that had been with the family since they moved onto the property in 1993.
"Each and every one of them had names," Pam said between tears Tuesday while sitting in her heated car within sight of the smoldering remains of the barn.
The fire started shortly before midnight in the barn next to their house at 8118 Ketcham Road west of the city. The family believes one of the lambs in the back pen or a ewe got rambunctious and knocked over an electric heater, sparking the blaze.
Lewis Simpson, public information officer for Laramie County Fire District 2, said several people driving by the area saw the flames and called in the fire, which was started by the heater.
The extreme cold temperatures and high winds made fighting the fire difficult, and the priority quickly became protecting the house Pam and her husband, Jeff, share with their sons. The house was not damaged.
"There really was not much we could do," Simpson said. "When we got on scene, the building was pretty much collapsed."
The family did not know the 32-by-32 barn with a small addition under the same roof was on fire until a sheriff's deputy knocked on their door shortly before midnight.
"We woke up to the officer knocking on our door, and I looked out the window," Pam said.
If the fire had started just 15 or 20 minutes earlier, some of the animals likely could have been saved.
Jacob Heschke, 19, was in the barn until about 11 p.m., and at that point, he said, everything was fine. He often spends the night in the barn this time of year to give the ewes extra attention when they are birthing.
His younger brother, Josh, said he was sitting in his pickup truck talking on the phone outside of the house until about 11:30 p.m., when he went inside.
The sons have a lengthy history of participating in 4-H and FFA, the former Future Farmers of America. Jacob said he raises the lambs this time of year so that children who participate in 4-H can have the animals make weight in time for the Laramie County Fair in August.
While driving slowly by the remaining ashes of what used to be the barn, Pam, who turns 53 years old today, identified the remains of some of the animals.
"I guess when you say it's devastating, it's a tragedy, even though they're animals," she said.
She tried to find some solace in the aftermath.
"We did have one survivor though - a rabbit," she said.
Asked how they can go about recovering from the fire, the brothers each took their time in responding.
"I don't know. Start over," said Josh, 17. "That's what most people say. It's hard to replace that kind of livestock."
"It's kind of hard. You really can't. You can start all over, but it won't be the same," Jacob said while standing behind the counter of the family business on South Greeley Highway. The Heschkes own Circle J Feeds, Triple J Pumping and Lazy J Tackle.
The flames have subsided, and there is nothing left of the barn, but for the Heschkes, the memories of what they lost will continue.
"There is no end to a fire. It'll last forever," Pam said.
Firefighters from Laramie County Fire District 1, F.E. Warren Air Force Base and the Wyoming Air National Guard assisted at the scene.
Reader Comments
John wrote on Feb 7, 2008 4:46 PM:
" To Animals: I have seen barns with more than 100 animals in them, I have seen sheds with three stalls have more than 12 horses in them. One does what one needs to keep their livestock or pets, in this case, warm. It was very cold that night, if you remember, and in the animal world, human and otherwise, there is warmth in hudling numbers, I refer to the movie "March of the Penguins." The Heschkes did nothing wrong in trying to keep their pets warm! If you read the newspapers, or watch the National News, every year there are tragedies with Space Heaters and other such devices in the cities of the United States. Is this a crime? No! Is this an unfortunate accident? Yes! You may have lit your bar-b-que the same way a hundred times, but the hundred and first time you singed your eyebrows. Is it a crime? No, just an accident. Accidents do happen to the most careful of people. No crime there. "
John wrote on Feb 7, 2008 4:36 PM:
" To Ralph in Phoenix: If that is where you are from. I have served in the Fire Service for 28 years. I started as a Volly, went to the part paid then into the career area of the Fire Service. I have been on Barn Fires where everything including the structure was saved. I have been on the Five Alarm Room and Contents Fires that had turned into foundation saves in the City. The difference is the training and response! Being new to Laramie County, I have taken a position of sitting back and observing the Firefighters and their leadership here in Laramie County. In my humble opinion, I would put these Unpaid Proffessionals, their training, and their save records against any Paid/Career Department any day. These Firefighters have a pride and heart factor that surpasses most paid mercenary wannabe Firefighters. I had a Chief tell me, "Pride take ownership!" I have great pride in the Fire Service and I do not understand why if the training is the same, the pride is the same, the job is the same, why you feel such hatred towards Vollies. Vollies give up so much more time than you! Lighten up! "
John wrote on Feb 7, 2008 4:31 PM:
" To the Heschke Family, my deepest sympathy and empathy. I am quite sure the community as a whole will relly to your aid. I know the Fire Districts of Laramie County will assist you in whatever capacity we can. I know I will, if requested to do so. District 2 will assist you if requested.
Good luck and best wishes. "
Good luck and best wishes. "
EL wrote on Feb 7, 2008 2:28 PM:
" Ralphie,
Check your 02 levels your talking about something that is over your head again. Make sure your doors are locked also. "
Check your 02 levels your talking about something that is over your head again. Make sure your doors are locked also. "
V wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:29 PM:
" To LAPD Wayne- in good years with moisture and feeding hay, you can easily put one horse per 40 acres. "
Ralphinphnx wrote on Feb 6, 2008 1:37 PM:
" To County FF or more
Correctly Put Volunteer Fireman as
I for one have never
considered any VFD
Fire Man to be a Real
Fire Fighter Since
your the big expert in
Rural Fire Fighting
Please tell me your
Laramie County Fire
District One & Two
ISO Insurnace Rating
Class is it a class 7
or 9 here? And what was your 2007 Annual
Fire Loss as well? "
Correctly Put Volunteer Fireman as
I for one have never
considered any VFD
Fire Man to be a Real
Fire Fighter Since
your the big expert in
Rural Fire Fighting
Please tell me your
Laramie County Fire
District One & Two
ISO Insurnace Rating
Class is it a class 7
or 9 here? And what was your 2007 Annual
Fire Loss as well? "
pam heschke wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:28 AM:
" If you would of read the article to you about our sheep at fair I said""Jacob placed 1st.. in breeding sheep (other breeds) I know because Mr. Etchapare gave my sons the sheep to show From Warren Livestock as their "Grandfather" worked for Mr. Fred Warren and Mr. Francis Warren and The WarHill sheep was the breed the boys showed.If was NOT the same breed as the Rabels.Needlessto say I think Mrs. Ware would know. Thanks for the comment though I will defend my children to the end, It was another family NOT US.
If and when we decide to rebuild, I will post it for all of you to come help build our barn! Fair Enough! "
If and when we decide to rebuild, I will post it for all of you to come help build our barn! Fair Enough! "
animals wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:04 AM:
" These people need some kind of charges against them! That is WAY too many animals in one barn! Accident waiting to happen! or was it an accident? "
RuthCase wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:46 AM:
" I really think that the family has gone through too much. No one dshould have their life put in a spot light. Cheyenne is just shocked by the tradegy of the fire that cost the life of so many animals. I don't think that the boys were neglectful. The intent of the heat lamp was to make the barn more comfortable for young animals. I hope that the boys take this experience and move forward. You are in the organizations to support your efforts. I for one will patronize their businesses. Is there a fire fund for the family. I certainly didn't mean to imply that the family didn't care. It's just that there were alot of animals in the barn. I would like to see community support for the family. These boys need help to get back to raising lambs with a new barn, solar heating, runs, stalls and to replace tack and things lost to the fire. The county has accountability for failure to enforce covenents "
All behind the Heschke family!! wrote on Feb 6, 2008 8:54 AM:
" Don't be sad Pam, just stop looking at these stupid comments, they are only ment to hurt, not to help. These people find joy in trying to push that one button that will make you crack, just for the joy to see you go down. They are all horribel people who have no sence of feelings. I don't know you very much but from everything I've read from you neighbors they sound like a whole bunch of fools who need to realize that if this was to happen to them, you guys are good people and would help them out, but they are ungreatful people who seem to me as the worse neighbors that anyone could have. And the stupid people from the 4H that are spreading rummors should no longer be allowed to praticapate because they are not what 4H is about. Just realize that there are only few that are the mean people the rest truly care and are thinking good thoughs and hopping for the best for you and your family. Don't listen to these mean people in the end they don't matter! God bless! "
Crazy People! wrote on Feb 6, 2008 8:41 AM:
" Yvonne Ware-Laramie County Fair Manager: I like how you put it, it's just gossip pure gossip. Well Karma sucks and all you gossipers and gripers and people who have an opinion who don't even know anything who just want to be heard, SHUT UP! I feel that it's more jealousy than anything, that's usually what sparks gossip! All the good people out there are behind the family 100% and feel for their loss, and know in their hear that they are good people, I guess everyone else can continue their path of self destruction. When the tables turn and someone else that talked crap has something bad happen to them I hope they get the same response that they gave this family. May God bless the Heschke Family!!! "
people are crazy! wrote on Feb 6, 2008 8:31 AM:
" Crazy comments and it seems like everyone has to have a say in there thoughts on the matter. Everyone should just stop flapping their jaw. No one knows what really happened, everyone can make their own assumptions about what THEY think happened. The only ones that know and that should be hurting is the Heschke family and in their time of need they shouldn't be slandered by people who only know what ignorant neighbors said and WTE wrote. It's not enough for an instant opinion on their life. The neighbors sound like rude inconsiderate people, no one I would want to live by, and WTE just want to sell the paper and have people look online. They family is probably loving and tried their hardest to do what they thought was good. If their land was so out of covenants then why did nothing with the law enforcement happen? Probably not as BAD as the rude neighbors made it out to be. GUESS what you live in the COUNTRY there is animals, too bad it was an ugly barn, boo hoo for the neighbors, it's the county not Beverly Hills. My heart goes out. "
Dot wrote on Feb 6, 2008 8:23 AM:
" I don't care what any of you think--WHAT I KNOW--The firefighters and emergency crew did a REAL GOOD job keeping the fire contained to just the barn.
Not only Pam and Jeff's home was right there, but also other buildings on their property, but also the neighbors homes and buildings nearby, and NOTHING else was burned.
AGAIN, I say THANK YOU!!! for keeping ALL OF US SAFE!!! It is just too bad that there is no money to help these firefighters!! They deserve a lot of PRAISE and MONEY!!!
THANK YOU FIREFIGHTERS!!!!
"
Not only Pam and Jeff's home was right there, but also other buildings on their property, but also the neighbors homes and buildings nearby, and NOTHING else was burned.
AGAIN, I say THANK YOU!!! for keeping ALL OF US SAFE!!! It is just too bad that there is no money to help these firefighters!! They deserve a lot of PRAISE and MONEY!!!
THANK YOU FIREFIGHTERS!!!!
"
County FF to ralphinphx wrote on Feb 5, 2008 10:54 PM:
" Now ralph you should just move to cheyenne and take care of all our problems. You seem to have the answer for almost everything as you post on almost every blog on here. Now to my point let's see hear could it be that structures are lost more frequently in the county um oh say because there is like 1 fire station for about every 220 Sq. miles vs. the city were there is a station for about every 9.5 sq. miles.. Dist. 1 happens to have 1 station for every 80 sq. miles of their dist. see anything with this?? Also did it ever occur that miami and such places have probably 5 times the call volume as what the county around cheyenne might have?? Another thing if you read the full article it says the barn was already collasped by the time dist. 2 arrived. Im sure you know how quickly a barn burns since you know everything. Dist. 1 and 2 are probably the 2 most well trained volunteer depts. in the state. The county they protect should feel very lucky. I am not with either one by the way. "
Leonard wrote on Feb 5, 2008 4:47 PM:
" I am very sorry for the loss of all the animals. What is done is done, nothing and no one can bring them back. I am a believer in "Everything happens for reason, without question" I only wish people could find something better to do than to lay blame and just mind their own trough. This is a life lessen that every person can learn from. "
dan wrote on Feb 5, 2008 4:21 PM:
" sounds like animal cruelty to me way to many animals in the barn "
to Pam wrote on Feb 5, 2008 12:41 PM:
" Your sheep were removed from fair one year due to the poor condition they were in....it was the breeding sheep. Your husband was mad and tried to argue, but the sheep were so sick they smelled. Argue all you want but I was there and saw it....You did improve the next year, oh Rabel had ramboulets, you in no way won against them. Just rebuild, on a smaller level with fewer animals, continue to take care of them and there will be no problems. Your neighbors will come around when they are not having to put up with the smell or flies. "
Yvonne Ware-Laramie County Fair Manager wrote on Feb 5, 2008 11:22 AM:
" I have been the Fair Manager for Laramie County Fair since 1990 and I can tell you that the Heshke family has NEVER been asked to remove animals from the Fair-for any reason. As you know, the Fair is a volunteer operation, and Jeff, Pam, Josh and Jacob have donated porta-poties, supplies from the feed store and lots of manual labor for the Fair. I have watched these boys grow from small children to young adults, and can say without a doubt, they are very caring and responsible young men, who have always been willing to help me, the staff and other kids at the Fair.
Who ever said they were kicked out of the Fair should check facts, and not be so "mean spirited" and spread such ugly gossip at this tragic time.
Remember, some times bad things happen to good people! "
Who ever said they were kicked out of the Fair should check facts, and not be so "mean spirited" and spread such ugly gossip at this tragic time.
Remember, some times bad things happen to good people! "
SK wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:36 AM:
" Ralphinphnx, as a matter of fact ALL Laramie County Fire Districts have saved many buildings. I just did it yesterday. Send me your email and i will send you picture of all the ones with in the last year. "
Pam Heschke wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:26 AM:
" to the people that think jacob was kicked out go to the fair board or offices and you will see that it was not him He placed first in other breeds when he competed against Rebels... Get your facts straight. to the people that think Jacob was making a profit for 4H animals and they raise their own? Hey, doesn't your 4 h kids make profits selling their home raised animals? Back at you! "
Horse's Mouth (as you called me) Pam Heschke wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:20 AM:
" So our lives have become an open book for for the community. Good and Bad. Now living under a microscope, binoculars, spot lights and lookie Lou's. So from the horses mouth, our barn was 32x48 with a 14x14 tack room, and after a tally of animals we lost alot.
So the neighbors have expressed their opinions, which they have only opened up old wounds. They have caused heart ache on top of heart ache, and only two neighbors have helped us. Did any of the neighbors tell you what we used to do for them? NO and they wont! We all have faults and I would like to tell everyone,Please think about waking up looking out the window to a ball of fire that was so high that you thought we were going to die? Screaming to have your children get out and finding an officer at the door tell? Two boys screaming "oh my God" All the animals we need to save them. The nightmares will never stop for any of us. Blame or no blame we have to live with this. So Judged condemned and Sentenced. We will survive! "
So the neighbors have expressed their opinions, which they have only opened up old wounds. They have caused heart ache on top of heart ache, and only two neighbors have helped us. Did any of the neighbors tell you what we used to do for them? NO and they wont! We all have faults and I would like to tell everyone,Please think about waking up looking out the window to a ball of fire that was so high that you thought we were going to die? Screaming to have your children get out and finding an officer at the door tell? Two boys screaming "oh my God" All the animals we need to save them. The nightmares will never stop for any of us. Blame or no blame we have to live with this. So Judged condemned and Sentenced. We will survive! "
Ruth Case wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:17 AM:
" My sympathy is with the animals. Although everyone wants to be a cadillac cowboy, you need a ranch not 4 acres to raise 100 animals. Animals heat themselves from the inside out from the food that they consume. Hopefully, the 4H community will continue to educate you on how to care for animals. When you rebuild include some runs for an escape route. Try writing a grant for solar heating. Continue your education with 4H and hopefully reduce the number of animals to match your means. I still recommend a run for the barn to allow animals an escape route. An who the heck enforces the covenents. It appears that the county has some responsibility for this situation. Does the county turn a blind eye to excess animals, flies and stench. Also the county needs to look toward fire safety and equipment to require landowners to have wells that will accomodate hooking up a hose. If the county can't protect the health of people and animals then maybe annexation is the answer. "
Stephen H. wrote on Feb 5, 2008 8:40 AM:
" Unless the neighbors want to experience stench and flies again, they better get together and get a plan created BEFORE the Heschke family rebuilds. It won't be easy and likely won't be cheap, but writing comments about the problem on this web site will NOT solve your problem. If you're not willing to do what it takes to get the problem corrected, then SHUT UP and live with it. It can't be that bad if you're not willing to exert some effort into correcting it. "
to Jacob wrote on Feb 5, 2008 8:05 AM:
" If my memory serves me correctly it was 1996-or 1997 you had to remove your breeding sheep they were very sick, in very poor condition and the board told you to take them home. Your father was very upset and argued but they had to go home. They did not show or stay. The next year your sheep were in much better condition. "
Sue wrote on Feb 4, 2008 5:19 PM:
" Well I have just taken time to read the comments about the fire. This is the first time in my life that I have taken this kind of time but I am just completely amazed at the amount of crazy ideas that some people have. I would like to know what rock in town that this Ruth person lives under. Also if the neighbors have so much time on their hands why didn't they offer to help out the Hesche's before any of this happened. Also who ever called the 911 # why didn't you try to get anyone in the house awake? I would have tried to tear a wall off of their house to get their attention. My last comment is that all around town there are places that never meet the covenants and no one in authority will help set it straight. I knew people that raised lambs in their basment and almost lost their baby but no one put the covenant laws into practice for that area. "
JACOB HESCHKE wrote on Feb 4, 2008 4:58 PM:
" I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO MADE COMMENTS ABOUT THE PAST AND WHAT THE ARTICLE IS ABOUT. I THINK THAT ITS TIME FOR ALL OF YOU PEOPLE TO MOVE ON. I KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO REBUILD THE BUILDING. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT FAIR I WAS KICKED OUT OF CAUSE I HAVE PICTURES OF EVERY SHOW SINCE I STARTED SHOWING AND I KNOW THAT I NEVER WAS KICKED OUT OR HAD TO REMOVE ANY OF MY ANIMALS. I WISH THAT LIVED ON A FARM COULD OF HAD THE NERVE TO SAY WHO HE WAS CAUSE I THINK THAT THEY ARE MISLEADING. TO THE NEIGHBORS I WANT YOU TO LEAVE US ALONE NOW AND ENOUGH IS ENOUGH CAUSE I AM THE ONE THAT STAYED IN THE BARN WITH MY ANIMALS WHEN THEY WERE LAMBING AND ALL OF YOU WOULD OF BEEN ATTENDING MY FUNERAL. ONE THING I KNOW IS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE TO LIVE WITH FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. WHO WILL EVER KNOW HOW IT STARTED AND WHY THIS HAD TO HAPPEN TO US. "
Desiree Bradney wrote on Feb 4, 2008 4:50 PM:
" to laramie co.pioneer... FYI I did grow up on a ranch. Born and raised. Get off your high horse and you soap box. I'm pretty sure your not perfect. Neither are these guys, they were doing what they thought was the best for their animals!! Stop being so self centered!! "
Tony Zuniga wrote on Feb 4, 2008 4:42 PM:
" For those of you who have bad mouthed these folks, SHAME ON YOU!!! You have no idea who they are. Until you get to know them maybe you should just keep your opinions to yourselves. These are some of the most wonderful people you could get to know. Thanks to a local retail fuel center I was able to meet these people and I know that they would never deliberately hurt these poor animals that they have lost. They took pride in doing what they have done and I don't believe that you should be the ones to pass judgement just because they were only trying to do what was right in making sure that these animals were carefully cared for. Keep your mouths shut if you aren't able to say anything nice. I'm so sorry to the Heschke family and you will be in my prayers. Tony Zuniga "
Josh Hesckke wrote on Feb 4, 2008 2:51 PM:
" you know is bad enough that we lost all of our anamils but the people who are running there mouths about O WE MOVED BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS AND DUMD STUFF LIKE THAT im the quit one of the family and all you stupit people who are funning there mouthes it getting old.........it showes on here that you guys are acting like little kids so grow up.IF YOU WANT TO RUN YOUR MOUTH AND TALK BAD STUFF SAY IT TO OUR FACES ENOUGH IS ENOUGH IM TIRED OF MY MOM TELLING ME ALL THE BAD STUFF SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BAD CALL ME AND SAY IT TO ME AS WELL. "
J. wrote on Feb 4, 2008 2:12 PM:
" Wow! That is a small building for that many animals. I would have like to see the setup in that building. My chicken house was at least half that big and I only had thirty chickens. Just so most people understand, a heat lamp is usually used to concentrate heat in one specific place or on one specific animal. It is dumb to think that the lamp was heating the entire building. Most of the animals would have required no artificial heat source if they had proper bedding. The lamp was most likely heating one or two very young animals. Obviously it should have been secured better, but what is done is done and I am sure a lesson was learned. I think actions should probably be taken to insure the family has a reduced number of animals at there place. Good luck neighbors! "
Ralphinphnx wrote on Feb 4, 2008 1:54 PM:
" So, can anyone tell me
if Volunteer Fire Districts 1 & 2 have
ever responded to any
stuctural fire and
actually save the building,or barm or
mobile home? Since every I read about one
of them going to a fire it seems like it
always says the building or barn or
trailer was a total
loss, Didn't used to be that way when Laramie County paid the Cheyenne Fire Department to operate
a County Fire Truck and only ended when the incompetent County
Commissioners had so
bsdly mismanaged their
budget so bsdly that
they could not pay
Cheyenne to operate it
and went to Volunteer
Fire Districts 1 & 2
and which is why Laramie County and the
City of Cheyenne need
to establish a Full Paid City/County Fire
Department like the
one Miami/Dade County
Florida operates or
like several counties
in Colorado are doing
nowdays and that easily can include
the ambulance service
as a part of it since
volunteer fire departments are going
out of business all
over the USA today. "
if Volunteer Fire Districts 1 & 2 have
ever responded to any
stuctural fire and
actually save the building,or barm or
mobile home? Since every I read about one
of them going to a fire it seems like it
always says the building or barn or
trailer was a total
loss, Didn't used to be that way when Laramie County paid the Cheyenne Fire Department to operate
a County Fire Truck and only ended when the incompetent County
Commissioners had so
bsdly mismanaged their
budget so bsdly that
they could not pay
Cheyenne to operate it
and went to Volunteer
Fire Districts 1 & 2
and which is why Laramie County and the
City of Cheyenne need
to establish a Full Paid City/County Fire
Department like the
one Miami/Dade County
Florida operates or
like several counties
in Colorado are doing
nowdays and that easily can include
the ambulance service
as a part of it since
volunteer fire departments are going
out of business all
over the USA today. "
Actually wrote on Feb 4, 2008 1:48 PM:
" the correct term is "Ingrate", which refers to a moron, not "ingrade", as in the elementary school grade you're still trying to complete.
"
"
Michael wrote on Feb 4, 2008 1:38 PM:
" This is such a sad tragedy. It is true, for those of you who think otherwise, ranchers many times use heat lamps to protect their animals. Animals can freeze to death too. I don't know the property, but if there is a stench, that can be alleviated by cleaning it properly. With a 100 animals though, it would be a tough job to keep up with. I've read all of the comments and I think, by far, the worst was Little Willy's. I don't know why anyone has to be cruel or insensitive to this family at this time. If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem. "
brit wrote on Feb 4, 2008 1:07 PM:
" i just wanted to say that i have heard about this story since the night of the fire, and that it is sad when pam, jeff, jacob, and josh had to go through such a loss, that there are people that have the guts to go and bad mouth such a good family. just think if this was you that had to go through such a loss. how would you feel?
love you guys, brittney "
love you guys, brittney "
Rhonda ( like a daughter) wrote on Feb 4, 2008 1:00 PM:
" i am very sorry for your loss. for the people that are being haters just remember that what comes around goes, and don't mess with such good people, that care about the people that are important in their lives
love you guys "
love you guys "
fred wrote on Feb 4, 2008 9:07 AM:
" Okay, I understand that most of you don't understand why their was a heater/heat lamp in the barn, but regardless this is a tragedy and put yourself in these people's shoes. WHAT WOULD YOU DO??? I am a farm/ranch girl, I understand that baby animals need the extra heat to survive this cold weather we have been having lately. Think of yourself, we need the extra heat to survive. When I was young we had to bring calves in the house and out them under a HEAT lampl to keep warm. That seems to me that is, what this family was doing, and NOBODY is perfect!!! "
get real wrote on Feb 4, 2008 8:16 AM:
" I am sure that thier neighbors are sorry for the fire and HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT> but there is another issue of problems here that I picked up on right away. They did not take proper care of thier animals, in the fact of the smell and general run down of the place. Also it was an accident, yes, but one caused by them PERIOD. They turned on the heat on, not the animals, not the neighbors. They need to really think before they start over and really set themselves up for success this time instead of just getting by. I know they love thier animals, but that is not enough, they need protected a proper care. I think this is what thier neighbors are upset about, is Heschkes lack of proper care. "
Another Look wrote on Feb 3, 2008 11:46 PM:
" Well let's see here so far I have been called and ingrade, inconsiderate jerk, and idiot for only voicing my opinion just has everyone else. Lets look at those other comments: look at the comments by: Neighbor, nonbeliever, anne,get the real story,its true,ex neighbor,another neighbor, diva, little willy,stephen H., to 1of5 generation laramie co., thank you... all these people either had a negative comment or a different comment about the family. and I'm called those things. Maybe the people who are angry that I posted what I did are trying to defend themselves I for one have not called you any names... are you feeling guilty about something after all people do tend to get nasty and call people names when they take the defensive. Im sorry Heschke family that you have neighbors that show their true feelings after you have had such a loss. I know for every neighbor that is against you, you have many more to support you. "
To Another look wrote on Feb 3, 2008 10:39 PM:
" Do you realize how much of an idiot you sound like when you keep accusing the neighbors of starting that fire?!?! Especially since Pam herself said what the cause of the fire was! You need to just stop posting! You are a very ignorant person! "
Thank you wrote on Feb 3, 2008 3:17 PM:
" Thank you To everyone who understands what the neighbors have been going through. Maybe this will make this family think about being more considerate to others around them. "
To Another Look wrote on Feb 3, 2008 3:08 PM:
" Well Another Look....if you take a look at all the other 68 postings YOU are the only inconsiderate jerk pointing fingers at the neighbors, Are you guilty of doing something and need a finger to point? "
Another Look to DIVA wrote on Feb 3, 2008 2:41 PM:
" Me an ingrade$!!! are you talking about I am saddended that those animals died if you read all the comments on here I had a beef with someone who corrected me. So I corrected myself if you read closely I dont give a darn if people think the tooth fairy started this fire.... I am saying that it is a tragidy these animals died due to a possible accident on some family members part.... but like I said before and I'll say it again... with comments like what some of the "neighbors" have posted it makes you wonder if it was truely an accident??? "
SVWY wrote on Feb 3, 2008 11:50 AM:
" Shame on all who have made these terrible commits on here!In this time of sorrow no matter what the case may have been or the circumstances of the past or even the present it's no wonder we are fighting a war now and losing our family members and friends just look at all these commits...it's terrible as a parent to be scared of what our children are going to experience in the future!How do they know any better? They think it was okay for our parents and family members why not me to?As a parent and family member to the Heschke's please think about that. "
Bug wrote on Feb 3, 2008 9:43 AM:
" Ok, enough is enough already!!!!!!
The family had a tragic accident! 100 animals died!
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!
If the newspaper article was written right, which it was not, would there have been so many opinions?
We all have our own ideas about this. We all have expressed those thoughts.
Whether you live in the city, or on a ranch or a farm, NO ONE can tell me that you, in some point of your life, have not had an ACCIDENT!!
It was probably not publised as this accident was.
Get over it, move on-
"
The family had a tragic accident! 100 animals died!
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!
If the newspaper article was written right, which it was not, would there have been so many opinions?
We all have our own ideas about this. We all have expressed those thoughts.
Whether you live in the city, or on a ranch or a farm, NO ONE can tell me that you, in some point of your life, have not had an ACCIDENT!!
It was probably not publised as this accident was.
Get over it, move on-
"
TO:to another look FROM DIVA wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:27 PM:
" I read the article. I will believe that it WAS an electric heater and even if it wasn't, the animals still burnt to a crisp and SOMEONE IS RESPONSABLE FOR IT. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS YOU INGRADE? WHEN ANOTHER LIFE DEPENDS ON THE CHOICES THAT YOU MAKE, IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT WAS A HEAT LAMP OR AN ELECTRIC HEATER. WHAT MATTERS IS THAT 100 LIVES WERE LOST DUE TO SOMEONE ELSES NEGLIGENCE. Furthermore, I don't care if it was ducks, chickens or pigs that burnt up in this tragic mess!! They are all living creatures. Shame on anyone who wouldn't value their lives just because they were edible. NUFF SAID. "
Another Look wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:27 PM:
" To: "To another look" hey lets be critical here in case you haven't noticed the WTE doesn't post commmets right away and if you look her comment and my comment were posted the same day about 5 1/2 hrs. apart that comment was not on this board yet when I wrote mine. So I do stand corrected she does say it was a heat lamp... my bad.... so they think it was a HEAT LAMP... That still does not change what I think. Im not saying a neighbor did this. The HEAT LAMP was most likely the cause..... but???? with some of the comments on here it makes a person wonder???? "
to a very close friend wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:17 PM:
" The post I wrote to Laramie co. pioneer applies to you as well. Who cares if you are friends with these people? That just leaves more room for criticism toward you and your lack of good judgment. Maybe as a friend of the family you should have assisted these irresponsible people in making more competent choices and their animals would still be alive and well and not char broiled. You people make me sick. I hope they do feel some pain and remorse. They should since this WAS THEIR FAULT!!!! And judging from what their neighbors have to say, these people should move somewhere else. "
to laramie co.pioneer wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:09 PM:
" I do live on a ranch. Born and raised and I have the competency to know that an electric heater does not belong in a barn full of highly flammable hay. Those animals had no chance and if we humans do not speak for them then they have no voice. And to Desiree, just because these people are friends of yours does not condone the death of 100 living breathing beings. ANIMALS ARE PEOPLE TOO and the death of an innocent animal holds just as much as of a price as a human life regardless of what you holy rolling bible thumping idiots have to say. They may have loved these animals but that is beside the point given the circumstances. They were careless and irresponsible and this is the price to be paid. So now you can respect MY first ammendment rights. (by the way, My animals are all STILL alive. perhaps you could use some advice from SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO RUN A RANCH). "
A VERY CLOSE FRIEND wrote on Feb 2, 2008 6:16 PM:
" First of all, those folks that are saying they didn't care about their animals, I have news for you, have you ever taken time out of your lives to care for any animals? Well let me tell you, I know that Pam took a baby goat to work every day for several months, caring for her and letting each and everyone from older people to just little children experiance the fun of feeding a baby goat, Cindy was her name, she became very well known to the customers of the feed store and when it was time to go home she went home to the barn, Cindy perished with all the others and even my children feed that little goat, So I feel a loss also! I do know for a fact that the neighbor that memtioned the Livestock board going to visit was the one that turned the Heschke's in, needless to say The family was never in the wrong, maybe caring too much! By the way the donkey " bullseye" was quite a pleasure to all! So don't be so hateful to them. Would you Like to live with their pain? God Bless "
To 1of a 5th generation Laramie Cnty Pioneer(homestead) family wrote on Feb 2, 2008 3:34 PM:
" Just to let you know this is NOT the first time we have confronted this family about the problems we have with them. They have been well aware of it for years. It is their own fault that they are receiving this criticism. They chose not to OBEY the covenants. We are not casting stones. They are not hearing anything they haven't heard before. Maybe you should get your facts straight before pointing fingers. Have you driven by their property? If not I wouldn't say any more criticisms to their neighbors until you know what they are going through. "
Stephen H. wrote on Feb 2, 2008 1:48 PM:
" To the neighbors of the Heschke family: NOW is the time to do something about the stench and flies that come from the Heschke property. I'm not a lawyer but I have to think that covenants are enforceable. If ANYONE is behaving in a prohibited manner, contact an attorney and see what your rights are. Contact others whose life style is adversely affected by the smell and flies and, as a group, try to convince the authorities that people are suffering due to the actions of others. The time to do it is now, BEFORE a new building is built and restocked with numerous animals. Good Luck! "
Wade and Dot Walker wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:38 PM:
" We would like to thank the firefighters and all the crew, for all they did, not just for the Heschke's, but for all the neighborhood.
You did a wonderful job of protecting their home, and all the homes and buildings up and down and across the street!!
Thank You very much!! "
You did a wonderful job of protecting their home, and all the homes and buildings up and down and across the street!!
Thank You very much!! "
To Another Look wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:31 AM:
" Maybe you should read the other comments before you comment. Pam Heschke wrote "I would like to let all of you know that it was not a heater that caused a fire but a heat lamp" before you posted your stupid comment. Talk about looking into facts when it comes straight out of the horse's mouth. "
Not a neighbor wrote on Feb 2, 2008 10:48 AM:
" Although I am not a neighbor I have been by this property many times. And think you all have it wrong about the neighbors, someone on here implied that the neighbors may have started the fire to kill the animals. How can you even begin to throw accusations out like that? The neighbors are human, of course they feel for the animals that were lost! If any of you actually read the neighbors postings you would see that they are saying this could have been prevented! These animals did not have adequate living facilities. And another thing, just because they are complaining about the stench and eyesores of the Heschke residence it does not mean they do not feel for their loss. I personally feel for the Heschke's I couldn't imagine having a loss like that, but I am also willing to listen to what the neighbors have to say. "
Vicki wrote on Feb 2, 2008 10:43 AM:
" Jeff, Pam and boys - after reading today it is very apparent that there are more understanding comments then negative. It is also apparent that people in our community think you are a wonderful family and feel for your loss. Keep your heads up, I am sure many people will help in anyway need be... "
Little willy wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:55 AM:
" Gosh darn, just got back into town, looks like I missed a great BBQ. "
live on a ranch wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:46 AM:
" I live on a ranch and over the years we have lambed and calved out hundreds upon hundreds of animals and have at times had to use a heat lamp. We try to be very careful when using them so that accidents like this does not happen. This was an accident and very sad. I too have children in 4-H and FFA, while my children raise their own animals, some other children have to purchase thiers. If the Heschke were raising animals for these projects for other kids, it was for profit on thier part, they do not give these away. Over the years I have watched this family bring sheep into the fair, in the beginning they had some serious problems with feed and care and had to be removed from fair. I have watched them learn and thier animals were taken better care of. In such a small place as thiers 100 animals is too much, way too much. They need to find a bigger place to raise animals to sell to children for thier projects, the outcome would be happier nieghbors, healthier animals. So do not rebuild and getmoreanimals. "
jon wrote on Feb 2, 2008 2:26 AM:
" to ruth case,too bad
you did"nt get it !!when my friend lost her three horses,in a fire in 74.QUIT STATEING YOUR POLICY on outher folks,MS case.to the family.start over and
god bless. "
you did"nt get it !!when my friend lost her three horses,in a fire in 74.QUIT STATEING YOUR POLICY on outher folks,MS case.to the family.start over and
god bless. "
1of a 5th generation Laramie Cnty Pioneer(homestead) family wrote on Feb 2, 2008 1:06 AM:
" Furthermore, I would like to say Thank God that the only lives lost where those of the animals and the barn. Did any of you bitter hatefull people consider that this unfortunate accident could have ended in the death of,at the very least,the 19 year old. Not to mention that the family could have ended up homeless. Don't forget the very real possibility that some if not all of you could have lost your homes and potentially your lives! I think you should all think long and hard about what role you did or did not have as members of your little community out there. Those of you who have chosen to wait until this tragic event to inform this family of the problems you have w/them. ARE YOU PROUD OF YOURSELVES? You should be ashamed of your selves, I know I am. Your behavior sickens me. It is my opinion that people like you are apart of the problem, and not the solution. You really should take a long hard look at YOURSELF before you cast stones. My advice to you, get off your high horses,you'r no better than anyoneelse. IF YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM, YOU CAN'T BEPARTOFTHESOLUTION!!!! "
A felAlow 4-H Member wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:41 PM:
" First and far most, I would like to tell the Heschke Family how sorry i am for you lose...and to all u retards that don't know what your talkin about. Obviously you've never poured your time and efforts in to a project animal(s). If you were born in a barn, in the dead of winter, where it was cold, wouldn't you like to have some source of heat?!?! "
Desiree Bradney wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:28 PM:
" Its people like Pam Jeff Jacob and Josh who make this community liveable. And Ms. Case, obviously you've never been around this stuff. Let's think about this. It is the middle of January, animals are giving birth. Sorry unlike us human beings baby animals don't have the luxury to be born in a nice warm hospital, they are born in barns. Where huh it's cold. So duh, why do you think that heat lamp was in there? How about you engage brain before opening mouth next time!! ONCE AGAIN JEFF, PAM, JACOB AND JOSH I'M VERY SORRY FOR YOU LOSS!!! (p.s. and i'm also sorry for other peoples ignorance, you can't fix stupid which seems to include a lot of people in this town)(pps it most be contagious) "
1 of a 5th Generation Laramie Cnty Pioneer(homestead) Family wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:24 PM:
" first I would like the Heschke boys know that this is not your fault. I grew up on a ranch not to far from u guys and know how it is to take care of many animals for many reasons, i also know how hard it is to lose them to such things as predators, weather, injuries etc. It was not your fault. My 4-H horse and best friend is 20 somthin and has been retired for about 10 of those years due to bone spurs. I know that she may not be able to make it through to many more winters none the less i will be devastated when I do lose her. My piont being that it does not matter how or when we lose them...It's a fact of life no matter what the cercumstances. We bond w/them all because we care for them and in return they enrich our hearts and lifes. To the entire family please pay no attention to all the insensitive, hatefull, cruel, hipocritical,...etc. words from arrogant, ignorant people. Keep in mind that most of these people,unless they have lived on a farm or ranch, have no clue! "
Desiree Bradney wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:20 PM:
" Heschke Family~ I am so sorry for your loss!!!I know how it feels to lose the animals that are so close to you!! I personally have lost a 4-H project horse. There is no reason that all for these ignorant people to be blaming this fire on you. It could happen to anyone. I have personally almost lost 50 chicken to a similiar situation. (a heat lamp fell, it happens) Obviously none of these people have ever raised or owned live stock. Or any farm animals for that matter. So to all you ignorant people, maybe you should look at your own living environment, it's probably not perfect either so stop blamin an accident on someone. And for you guys that don't know these people, I however do. Neighbor or not you p robably don'tknow them truth be known. This is one of the best families possible. They will do anything to help anyone even if it means giving the shirts off their own backs. SO STOP CONDENMING THEM FOR AN ACCIDENT!!!! You can tell the difference between people who care for their animals well beings and the ones who don't. People like the Heschke Family are the "
Diva wrote on Feb 1, 2008 10:11 PM:
" Regardless of their remorse, I blame the owners of the animals for their death. Shame on YOU for not protecting them from this agonizing death. Imagine if YOU were the ones who had to burn alive. Let’s hope that the carbon monoxide put them to sleep before they began to burn. This makes me sick. This could have been prevented. You have no one to blame but yourselves. I do not feel sorry for you, I feel sorry for the innocent lives that were taken. I wrote a post once about using an electric heater and I got my head bit off by the community due to “safety matters” and here they are defending you. How ironic. I killed no one. Your negligence killed 100. You all make me sick. "
Another Look wrote on Feb 1, 2008 7:13 PM:
" You know after reading some of the comments from some of the "neighbors" maybe the space heater wasnt it... maybe there should be an investigation into some of these upset neighbors who seem to be glad with the fact that all those animals died!! Just a thought!! "
think wrote on Feb 1, 2008 3:13 PM:
" I am not sure why everyone believes everything that they read in the paper. you should know that there are always bits and pieces which are left out so the story seems more readable and is not extremely long. no where in the article did it say that the heat source was on the ground no one really knows what happened so everyone needs to stops critizing them for an accident that was never wanted to happen. This is usually one of the worst nightmares for anyone who has animals, which are more as family, and cares for them. "
LAPDWayne wrote on Feb 1, 2008 1:44 PM:
" I live in Hillsdale with 40 acres. How many horses or cattle
is someone allowed with 40 acres????????
Anybody care to answer
please do so. I am looking at having maybe 3 horses and thats all. Please let me know what you people think and I thank you in advance. "
is someone allowed with 40 acres????????
Anybody care to answer
please do so. I am looking at having maybe 3 horses and thats all. Please let me know what you people think and I thank you in advance. "
PAM HESCHKE wrote on Feb 1, 2008 12:31 PM:
" I have been receiving calls,letters, prayers etc, I would like to let all of you know that it was not a heater that caused a fire but a heat lamp, and for all of the animals the majority of them that perished in the fire were poultry such as chickens geese and ducks.
For those who are sending negative messages REMEMBER ONE THING if you are all so perfect I don't see you walking on water! You all will have to answer for your actions, GOD keeps tabs on all of you! What you don't know is so does everyone ELSE! "
For those who are sending negative messages REMEMBER ONE THING if you are all so perfect I don't see you walking on water! You all will have to answer for your actions, GOD keeps tabs on all of you! What you don't know is so does everyone ELSE! "
strode familly wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:59 AM:
" Pam, Jacob, Josh and Jeff, I was devasted when I was told of your loss!! I think the 4-H and FFA is at a loss because of this. Only someone who has raised animals for 4-H or FFA can understand what you are going thru. Unfortunatly, I am sure this has happened to someone in the past. You do every thing you can to keep the animals safe and warm, accidents happen. I hope you are able to igm=nore the nasty comments and know you are all loved in the community. If you need anything, don't hesatate to call. "
Vicki wrote on Feb 1, 2008 9:41 AM:
" This is in response to "anne" It is very obvious that you do not live on a farm or been ivolved in the animal birthing process. So let me put it into prospective where your might understand. When someone has a baby, doctors and nurses immediatly put the baby under a heat lamp, same is true with animals. I lived on a small farm growing up and we ALWAYS had heaters and heat lamps on our babies or they would literally, FREEZE to death. It is very common for there to be heat lamps and heaters in a barn. Next time you comment make sure you know what you are talking about, PLEASE!!!!This blog makes me sick, we have a family who loved their animals and took care of them and suffered a huge loss and people are turning it into a mean and even more tragedy. I stand behind the caring people in our community and am sorry for your loss. This was by no means your fault. "
Dillon Riggans wrote on Feb 1, 2008 7:48 AM:
" from personal experience i know how much all the animals meant to all of you. i just want you to know if you ever need help with anything, dont be afraid to give me a call. you guys have always been there for me, so now is my chance to be there for you. you guys are always in my prayers. "
An aquaintance wrote on Jan 31, 2008 9:16 PM:
" Pam and family, I am so sorry for your loss! NOBODY knows your pain but you all and there are some that may have experienced pains comparible, however we all handle things differently. I am ashamed of all people who condemn victims of any tradegy-I have read so many comments on several tradegies-including this one. It is sad to see how some think that they are so perfect and have never made mistakes (SUPPOSABLY) casting stones like they walk on water or something-they are the ones who should be ashamed. I guess we are all surrounded by ignorant people who want to twist the knife for people in pain. SHAME on you all. You loved these animals & were only trying to do what you thought was best & for anybody to imply that you had that heater in there to out right kill or to destroy the things you love, make us all look like stupid. I feel for your pain.& Sorry for stupid people "
Unname wrote on Jan 31, 2008 6:12 PM:
" I am sorry to hear that your barn burned down but one must remember that there was too many animals in that barn.I believe the animals are in a better place now. I do not wish this tragedy upon anyone and I hope your family will beable to heal. The heater should have been above the animals reach pointing down on them so they could not have knocked it over but the family probably knows that now. I am also glad that your house was spared. Many people would have knocked on your door if they happen to see the fire so don't criticize people for not letting you know when most were not aware of the fire in process. I do have to agree with the individuals that have chosen to move away because of the smell of your animals. I do not believe that people should have to move out of that neighborhood/country as some have put to get away from the unthoughtful individuals that can't clean up after their animals. Before you have all these animals again, make sure you can clean up after them so others do not have to suffer. "
Another Neighbor wrote on Jan 31, 2008 6:07 PM:
" The devastation of a fire is always tragic however, kudos to the neighbor who voiced their opinion regarding the Heschke "farm". We too are neighbors of the Heschkes. The stench and flies are at times overwelming. There have been multiple occasions when their animals have gotten out. We have caught their pigs rutting in our sod, the goats chewing up our shrubs and flowers. We have also witnessed their cow on our neighbors front porch.
Shame on you Heschkes for not thanking the people who called in the fire, but blasting them for not knocking on your door. If they hadn't called, your home and others property may also have burned. Also, where is the thank you to the brave firefighters that put out the blaze?
Why are you using 4-H as a scapegoat? I thought that part of the 4-H teaching was responsibility for the proper care of animals. Last summer I recall the Livestock Board investigating the Heschke animals. Pigs were being kept in a horse trailer in 90 degree temps. Also, what about the bull?
5 acres for the amount of animals you have is not sufficient. "
Shame on you Heschkes for not thanking the people who called in the fire, but blasting them for not knocking on your door. If they hadn't called, your home and others property may also have burned. Also, where is the thank you to the brave firefighters that put out the blaze?
Why are you using 4-H as a scapegoat? I thought that part of the 4-H teaching was responsibility for the proper care of animals. Last summer I recall the Livestock Board investigating the Heschke animals. Pigs were being kept in a horse trailer in 90 degree temps. Also, what about the bull?
5 acres for the amount of animals you have is not sufficient. "
EX NEIGHBOR wrote on Jan 31, 2008 5:47 PM:
" A LITTLE FYI FOR PAM AND JEFF~ WE DID MOVE AWAY BECAUSE OF YOUR SMELL. WE HATED GOING OUTSIDE IN THE SUMMERTIME BECAUSE OF THE STINCH AND FLIES THAT CAME FROM YOUR HOUSE. "
it's true wrote on Jan 31, 2008 5:37 PM:
" i drove by to check it out after i found out about the fire. it is an eye sore. i wouldn't want them to be my neighbor even if i chose to live in the country. "
get the real story wrote on Jan 31, 2008 5:32 PM:
" to all of you feeling sorry for this family~ you need to be feeling sorry for the animals that died because of their inconsideration. i hope this is a wake up call to our community about those who do not obey covenants and nothing is done. the awful smell that came from the heschke residence was ridiculous. i mean seriously 100 animals in a little barn? and for you that think that the people need to move to get away from the smell and appearance of their house, drive by the residence and see if YOU would like to be their neighbor. some people have been living out there longer than this family. they are a huge eye sore. "
coffeeanddonuts wrote on Jan 31, 2008 5:29 PM:
" Non-believer and Ralph: These people suffered a tragic loss and all you two morons can do is ridicule those who offer comfort. How dare you. You will ultimatley be judged. Right now by me. You both suck and have nothing to offer anyone except "cyber bullying". Get a life. Go practice falling down. Everyone else on here- don't let these two jerks discourage you from using the first amendment for what it was intended- to BETTER this world. Yes, the morons in Kansas fall under the first amendment, just like ralph and non believer, but that dosen't mean anyone HAS to listen to them. Just do like I've been doing- when they post something, just read the next comment. Nothing these two bone heads say is relevant for anything, so don't give them the time of day. That's my advise. God bless America. "
anne wrote on Jan 31, 2008 4:37 PM:
" First how was there 100 animals in a 30 by 30 barn but if you add all the animals it said they had in the article there is only 50. And animals don't need heaters in the BARN pigs have no hair and do just fine in the cold here so why would animals with fur need to a heater. That is a bad thing that happened but it was a bad place to put a heater in when it probably doesnt help a whole lot. "
to rainyday wrote on Jan 31, 2008 3:11 PM:
" Every one makes mistakes such as not hanging the heater it still doesn't mean you need to be rude. As for "reading" maybe you should take your own advice. If you had read the article some of the animals were going to be used in the 4H and FFA programs. Again I am not sure why some people need to be rude, but I hope you all have a lovely day! "
dear neighbor wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:04 AM:
" all i know is that you people have done nothing but harrassed about our 4-H animals we had and most of the animals that were lost was mostly poultry we only had one calf three horses a donkey ten goats and seven sheep. We downed sized cause of the harrassment we had through in 1999 and now you won the battle cause of the fire. The people that have moved away moved because of there jods not cause of us. so thank you very much for your rudeness and i would like to know who called it in and why didnt you have the nerve to knock on the door and wake us up. "
Another neighbor wrote on Jan 31, 2008 9:53 AM:
" To the other neighbor-
To clearify, the Heschke's only had ONE calf!!!
And if you are going to start about covenants, you better start with your own place.
If you don't like being out in the country, MOVE!!!
This is a tragic event for them, and our hearts and prayers go out to them all!
We will help them however we can when/if they decide to rebuild and replenish their farm. "
To clearify, the Heschke's only had ONE calf!!!
And if you are going to start about covenants, you better start with your own place.
If you don't like being out in the country, MOVE!!!
This is a tragic event for them, and our hearts and prayers go out to them all!
We will help them however we can when/if they decide to rebuild and replenish their farm. "
Vicki wrote on Jan 31, 2008 9:24 AM:
" To the neighbor - shame on you. I bet you wouldn't be so hateful if it were your home or something dear to you. Remember what comes around goes around. "
Vicki Ware-Sopr wrote on Jan 31, 2008 9:22 AM:
" Jeff,Pam,Josh and Jabob - My prayers are with you. You all do so much for the "fair" community. I am sure I speak for all of us when we say if you need anything we are all here for you. I am so sorry for your loss, please know you are in all of our prayers. "
Neighbor wrote on Jan 31, 2008 6:44 AM:
" It is tragic that so many animals were lost, however, the fact is that there should not have been that many animals on their property, especially cattle. The covenants do not allow that many animals, and they specifically prohibit cattle. I hope they do NOT restock their "farm" as the smell is awful, neighbors have been forced to move and their "farm" is unslightly to say the least. It ruins the whole street. The Heschkes need to read the covenants and this time, obey them. "
Native wrote on Jan 31, 2008 6:18 AM:
" A tradgedy to a wonderful family, sorry for your loss, one day at a time and please continue your rebuilding. "
non believer wrote on Jan 31, 2008 4:04 AM:
" What kind of a god would allow this type of tragedy to occur? You people need to re-evaluate your unrealistic beliefs. Santa clause and the tooth fairy have come through much better than this so called god has. Think about it. "Thank god he spared your Rabbit but allowed 100 others to burn alive" some loving god you idiots believe in. (she said as she laughed herass off). hahahahaha. "
Hargraves family wrote on Jan 30, 2008 9:49 PM:
" Pam, Jacob and Josh we are very sorry to hear about the fire. As like the other posts you are in our prayers. If you need anything, help rebuilding, someone to talk to or just someone to vent to we are here for you! You have done so much for us in the past year and now it is our turn to repay you. You know how to get a hold of us so don't be afraid to.
God bless everything you do! "
God bless everything you do! "
rainyday39 wrote on Jan 30, 2008 8:05 PM:
" This fire was a sad case of stupid errors. Is it because they were animals? First thing came to my mind was why was there a heater in the barn sitting on the floor. It should have been raised up. Hanging from the ceiling or whatever there was to attach to. Ruth Case is right "could be kicked over?" You people who bad mouthed her--read what she wrote. I emphasize the word "read". Also what in the world does 4H got to do with this fire? Get off the 4H merry-go-round. Think of the suffering those animals incurred. "
mc baker wrote on Jan 30, 2008 7:39 PM:
" I’m very sorry for your loss. I know what all of you are going through. "
Cowboy wrote on Jan 30, 2008 7:04 PM:
" To Ruth Case:
Shame, Shame, Shame on you. You are a naughty girl for what you said "
Shame, Shame, Shame on you. You are a naughty girl for what you said "
to Ruth Case wrote on Jan 30, 2008 6:08 PM:
" Are you serrious? Who posts something rude to people who were doing something kind like helping out 4H kids?? Oh and as to why there was a heater the Ewes and lambs needed heat to survive....think next time. "
County FF wrote on Jan 30, 2008 6:00 PM:
" To Ruth Case. Although your idea seems good on paper you cant just going punching holes for water. With groundwater being scarce as it is. All the county departments have water tankers that haul water. Our dept. has a 3200gal and a 2500gal. and some depts. have semi tankers so usually we can get enough water to fight a fightable fire... it sounds like this fire moved so fast no amount of water would have saved it. "
Jackie wrote on Jan 30, 2008 4:56 PM:
" I've been think about the incident all day, and if you ever need anything, feel free to ask, and I will try my hardest to help . . .
Love,
Jackie :) "
Love,
Jackie :) "
me again wrote on Jan 30, 2008 3:16 PM:
" Thank God he spared your rabbit. And bless the fire fighters who saved your house. My prayers and thoughts are with you all as you repair your barn and replace your critters. Just remember I believe God has a special place for his animals in heaven. "
4-H members wrote on Jan 30, 2008 3:09 PM:
" How sad we were to hear the loss of the Heschke's animals HOME being burnt to the ground with 1 lone survivor. How devestating this is not only to the family but also by the 4-H & FFA community. There is alot of TLC that goes into raising animals. Whether is for a fair project or food that goes on the table there is alot of time devoted to the care in raising animals from start to finish. Many of nights have myself, 3 children, and husband spent in the barn ferrowing pigs to go to the youth of Laramie County to be shown at the fair and also sold to private individules to be butchered to go on their dinner table. Alot of our animals have had heat lamps and heater put on them for survival in order they survive our harsh cold and windy days and nights.
If you are eating pork you purchased from the 4-H livestock sale or FFA Kiwanis Sale it just may have gotten off to its first weeks of life by means or a heating device for it's survival.Thanks for all you do for our youth. Love and prayers.Keith Heschke Family:) "
If you are eating pork you purchased from the 4-H livestock sale or FFA Kiwanis Sale it just may have gotten off to its first weeks of life by means or a heating device for it's survival.Thanks for all you do for our youth. Love and prayers.Keith Heschke Family:) "
Humphrey Family wrote on Jan 30, 2008 1:45 PM:
" To the Heschke Family,
We are very sorry to hear about your loss. How devastated you must be. We know the time, love, and sincere compassion that goes in to every 4-H/ FFA project. May the good Lord give you strength to move on and pick up the pieces. Our thoughts and prayers are with you in this tragic time.
Those of us that raise livestock know that heat is necessary during lambing, calving, farrowing or any time when livestock is born. With the cold temperatures and wind at night it was a must. It doesn’t matter if you use a heat lamp or a heater. Sometimes accidents happen.
Humphrey Family
"
We are very sorry to hear about your loss. How devastated you must be. We know the time, love, and sincere compassion that goes in to every 4-H/ FFA project. May the good Lord give you strength to move on and pick up the pieces. Our thoughts and prayers are with you in this tragic time.
Those of us that raise livestock know that heat is necessary during lambing, calving, farrowing or any time when livestock is born. With the cold temperatures and wind at night it was a must. It doesn’t matter if you use a heat lamp or a heater. Sometimes accidents happen.
Humphrey Family
"
Tom Godfrey wrote on Jan 30, 2008 12:21 PM:
" My prayers are with you guys. You gave those and all animals a great life. Hopefully, we'll meet up at big fairground in the sky. You do such wonderful things don't let this stop your efforts. "
to ruth case wrote on Jan 30, 2008 12:08 PM:
" they most likely had a heater in there to keep the animals warm. how would you like to sleep in a ban in this weather. this is a horrible event and my thoughts and prayers go out to the family and the failies of the 4h kids. "
very sorry wrote on Jan 30, 2008 11:18 AM:
" I am so sorry for your loss.I hope that you will start over again. My prayers are with you. "
crl wrote on Jan 30, 2008 11:02 AM:
" I am very sorry about your loss. Your family will be in my prayers. "
Starvalley Wyoming wrote on Jan 30, 2008 9:56 AM:
" To our family who has had a loss. We are very sorry and our thoughts and prayers are with you!
Clark Family "
Clark Family "
One who Cares wrote on Jan 30, 2008 9:38 AM:
" I am so very sorry to hear of your loss. I feel for all of you. Please let your boys know that it wasn't their faults, it was just something that happened. May the good Lord bless you in this time of sorrow. "
Ralphinphnx wrote on Jan 30, 2008 9:28 AM:
" Oh how sad as those 4H
kids sure put all their hearts and souls
into the animals and
their projects,but
I guess we all can be
glad no one got hurt
or killed during the
fire,as the loss of all the animals is tradgic enough. "
kids sure put all their hearts and souls
into the animals and
their projects,but
I guess we all can be
glad no one got hurt
or killed during the
fire,as the loss of all the animals is tradgic enough. "
Ruth Case wrote on Jan 30, 2008 8:57 AM:
" Your fire is a tradegy. But what was a heater doing in a barn with animals that could be kicked over. This fire points to the need to increase support for our volunteer rural fire fighters and develop a plan to allow access to wells for fire fighting on private property. With no water how do you fight a fire in the county. All county property s/b required to have a large access for fire safety. I am so sorry for the animals that died. These animals depended on you to protect them. The barns s/b built with runs so in an event like this the animals could have gotten out. "
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John wrote on Feb 7, 2008 4:57 PM:
You might want to check what an ISO rating truely grades you on. Ypu may be surprised to find out, it doesn't really show how good your Fire Department truely is. Since fires are only 20-25% of the total call volume. Insurance will build me a new house, but those medics that ISO does not count, saved the life of my neighbor. ISO does not rank how well the Hazardous Materials Team responds to incidents. ISO counts Water Supply, how well it is applied, how fast it gets applied, and for how long. By the way, what is your Non-Hydranted ISO Rating? How long is your longest Tender Shuttle? Or are you just a citified Firefighter with all of the conviences of home? By the way, you might want to look up http://www.pwcgov.org/default.aspx?topic=040026000110004566. Pay attention to the video! Read and absorb the report. Their ISO ratin is a "1"! Then come talk with me about Vollies and Career. "