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Tiny and very Republican, Wyoming is a Democratic player at last

CHEYENNE (AP) -- For decades, Democratic presidential candidates have largely ignored this heavily Republican state.

Now, with a razor-thin margin separating Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, Wyoming suddenly finds itself relevant as the candidates scramble for the 12 delegates at stake in Saturday's caucus.

"In the grand scheme of things, Wyoming factors in for us," said Obama spokesman Matt Chandler. "We take it very seriously."

Only in the last few weeks have the campaigns stepped up their presence in the state. Both campaigns have set up offices, while calling voters and sending mailers. The first visits are planned for later this week. Former President Bill Clinton will be campaigning for his wife on Thursday, while Obama and Hillary Clinton will be attending events on Friday.

All the attention has Wyoming Democrats ecstatic.

"It's amazing. It's a once-in-a-generation type of opportunity for Wyoming to have a say in this presidential race," said party spokesman Bill Luckett.

Many say they haven't been this relevant since the 1960 Democratic National Convention, where 15 votes cast by Wyoming's delegation put John F. Kennedy over the top for the nomination.

"It's not like, 'Well, it's just Wyoming. We're going to write them off.' We do matter," said Cynthia Nunley, a Democrat from Lander. "We did in 1960 when we put Kennedy over the top, and we do this time because it is so close and our delegates can make a difference."

People all over the state want in on the action. The number of registered Democrats has grown by more than 1,000 since the start of the year, according to the Wyoming secretary of state's office. Currently Republicans have 136,000 registered voters, compared to 59,000 Democrats.

"People have contacted the campaign who are eager to help out. We're going to be harnessing that enthusiasm to really bring out the vote," said Clinton spokesman Blake Zeff.

It's not clear which candidate might have an edge. No public polling has been done. However, at least one prominent Wyoming Democrat has questioned whether Clinton's unpopularity would hurt other Democratic candidates in the West.

"I feel a lot of conservative Republicans may not show on Election Day to vote for Sen. (John) McCain, but they may show up to vote against her," said John Millin, state Democratic Party chair.

Millin's comments have sparked some controversy in the state.

"I think Chairman Millin is wrong. And I would go further. I would say it ill behooves the chairman of the Wyoming Democratic Party to rule out one of the two leading contenders for the office," said Kathy Karpan, a former Clinton administration appointee who served as director of the Office of Surface Mining in the Interior Department.

Karpan, who also served as Wyoming secretary of state, said Clinton has had "every aspect of her political life scrutinized" while less is known about Obama.

Meanwhile, the state's top Democrat, Gov. Dave Freudenthal, has said he doesn't like any of the candidates, Republican or Democratic.

Freudenthal doesn't think they've spoken enough about Western issues. He hasn't endorsed anyone and will not say who, as a superdelegate, he will vote for at the party's national convention.

"I just don't usually get involved in it. I may or may not," he said.

Freudenthal leans to the right, as do many Democrats in Wyoming. They include former state legislator Dick Sadler, of Casper, who wouldn't rule out voting for McCain.

"You'll find that the majority of the Democrats in Wyoming are just like they are anywhere else. They're fairly liberal," Sadler said. "But there are a certain faction of them that are pretty darn conservative. And thank God for that."

Yet some Republicans in Wyoming may be willing to move to the left come November - if Obama is the nominee. Mike Vinich, a bar owner in Hudson, said several of his Republican rancher friends have told him they'd vote for the Illinois senator.

"They just don't like McCain," Vinich said. "And the ranchers hate Hillary. They won't vote for her. Each one I've talked to (says), 'I don't want that woman in there, but Obama sounds promising."'




Reader Comments

Kiley wrote on Mar 11, 2008 11:44 AM:

" "Tiny and Very Republican"... Isn't that a redundancy in terms? "

crow wrote on Mar 10, 2008 1:51 AM:

" Wyoming will always be a republican. Everyone else just happens to live here and are not of any importance. I chose to keep my rights and my guns. If a democrat wants to step in and take that from me, he'll have to pry it out of my cold dead fingers and even then I will be squeezing the trigger. "

Hillary? wrote on Mar 9, 2008 3:01 PM:

" The thought makes me sick! she is where freedom and happiness go to die. "

To Joe B wrote on Mar 9, 2008 2:59 PM:

" Good for the West? what would they know about the west?, my guess is you are not from here. Until the Demorats stop attacking our rights they will never be anything but a plague out here. When they back the 2nd Amendment and the rights of law abiding citizens to be armed without a laundry list of senseless restrictions that only hinder the law abiding folks and do nothing to combat crime will they be worth anything. Democrats to me represent more laws, restrictions, regulations, loss of freedoms and rights and the higher taxes to pay for all those losses in freedom, explain how I am going to be better off?. No price is worth the loss of one freedom to me, NOT ONE! "

Wyoming.... wrote on Mar 9, 2008 1:23 PM:

" I foolishly thought you were made of better character and intelligence! "

unhappy wrote on Mar 9, 2008 6:16 AM:

" who cares that a couple dozen sick Democrats in Wyoming what Barack Hussein Obama. California, Florida, New York, Texas, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Massachusetts, Michigan, and New Jersey all want a serious candidate ... not this easy speaking hypocrite "

Don't let Republicans take the primary wrote on Mar 8, 2008 7:59 AM:

" Well isn't that interesting S.B. -- they could vote in the Republican primary in early January still have plenty of time to change their registration and vote in the Democratic primary too.

Wyoming is a republican state, not surprising they could arrange it so neatly.

Don't let the republicans control who the democratic nominee is - attend and participate "

Richard Fassler wrote on Mar 8, 2008 2:42 AM:

" Yes, we need a lady for president..but not this lady. She does not have those qualities that people generally admire in a woman: honesty, fairness and compassion. Oddly enough, it's Obama who has more of these than Clinton. She drags around the baggage of numerous scandals and two dead-beat brothers, not to mention a cheating, impeached husband. Come on, gals...in this election, the best woman for the job..is a man. Vote Obama! "

John wrote on Mar 8, 2008 1:13 AM:

" Annie May-
The difference is that Bill Clinton started out with a LOT MORE EXPERIENCE than BarackO. I mean, there has to be a MINIMUM. Clinton was a 2 term Gov., JFK was a 4 term Congressman, 2 terms Senator & WAR HERO. Obama has none of those credentials. IN FACT, he has NO CREDENTIALS to speak of at all. All this fiction of all these bills he passed--voted on, co-sponsored with like 40 other people). In the senate, he passed TWO BILLS. TWO. That's it. To promote democracy in the Congo and to name a post office. That is the sum total of his legislative experience. Illinois? Don't even bring it up! Voting "PRESENT"--how many times? 10? 20? NO ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY TIMES!!!
This guy has done nothing, accomplished nothing and it is ALL EGO. Why is he running? Why not wait a few years and get a little experience? NO. He is an opportunist, a plagiarizer, a thief (Read "Obama & Me"-Houston Press about putting his name on other Senator's bills--)
Isn't that the same thing all over again? Taking credit for someone else's work, cheating (NAFTA-gate)
This guy is the bottom of the barrel. "

Marie wrote on Mar 7, 2008 11:15 PM:

" John McCain won the republican race so early on, it left a lot of republicans with time on their hands.
Now they are crossing over to "pose" as democrats and trying to influence voters to vote for Hillary on these "comment" posts.
The republicans know that they can not defeat Obama! In polls, he is beating John McCain by 10% to 12% in the big election Hillary would lose by 6%. Listen to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, etc. They talk about this strategy all the time. It's a real, happening plot.
Look again at a lot of the "over the top" commentary being posted here in support of Hillary. ..... No, I take that back.....posted here in attack of Barack Obama! ....
Many of them are "fake" Democrats looking to get the WEAKEST candidate nominated. That would be Hillary Clinton!
Obama is keeping his campaign on a high level. Hillary (and her supporters learn from her!) has been trying to drag him down, with her, into the mud.... get him dirty, make him look just as corrupt as she is.
Let's learn from Barack,....let our posts for Obama stay on the High road. "

Jason wrote on Mar 7, 2008 11:03 PM:

" OBAMA=empty rhetoric Hillary=true change

Look at the previous administration of the Clintons which equaled jobs, a budget surplus so what if Bill got his in the Oval office that is between him God and Hillary. I commend them for what they have done for this country. Obama always for the most part during the debates agrees with what Hillary says? Can he not make up his own mind? I think Hillary is a very viable choice for keeping our private land just that private. Our federal lands and parks protected. Which is another thing that Bill did while he was in the WH matter of point he opened up more lands to the people, unlike current administration locking them down for oil production which is what Obama wants to continue. Our federal lands were set aside for the people NOT BIG BUSINESS and oil production. VOTE HILLARY she is the only one who really cares for ranchers and for our lands "

Ralphinphnx wrote on Mar 7, 2008 10:09 PM:

" OMG Wyoming finally
got its 15 Seconds of
Fame with a short
visit from Democratic
Presidential Candidates Con Man
Barack Hussein Obama
and Senator Hillary
Clinton,so why hasn't
Bush Lite Amnesty John
McCain showed up and
gave you some to his
"Forked Tongue Express
Talk" by now as well? "

Joe B wrote on Mar 7, 2008 9:12 PM:

" Either Hilary or Barack would be much, much better than 4 more years of the same old nonsense we'd get with McCain. Democrats can be GOOD for the west if we can get them to listen. That can happen now! "

Wyoming Realist wrote on Mar 7, 2008 7:12 PM:

" Marie, politics are not for the faint of heart. You bet your sweet bippies John W. McBush and the 527's are going to mop the floor with Obama. If he ends up winning the nomination (I hope not) he will be a stronger cantidate in November. "

WYOMING IS A RED STATE ANYWAY wrote on Mar 7, 2008 6:17 PM:

" I don't care who Wyoming votes for !
They will all vote for republican John McCain in November regardless ! aso it does not really matter at all! "

DFK wrote on Mar 7, 2008 5:37 PM:

" I would ask all democratic voters is Wyoming to consider a couple of points. First of all, Senator Clinton made a claim that she would handle a 3:00 a.m. crisis call to the White House better than Senator Obama because she has more experience. In reality, the crucial factor in a crisis is composure. Senator Obama has definitely demonstrated more composure on the campaign trail. Remember her rant about getting the first question in every debate. Secondly, she emphasized the NAFTA issue with the Canadians. It has come out this week that her campaign made the same statements to the Canadians. Bottom line, she will say and do whatever it takes to become President. Whether it is honest or not. I have met Barack and Michelle Obama and they are genuine and heartfelt folks. I urge you to cast your caucus vote for Senator Obama on Saturday. "

Alyssa Lawson wrote on Mar 7, 2008 3:02 PM:

" Hillary is corupt and appeals to fears like the Republican's always do. FEAR FEAR FEAR. Obama, is a listener a reasonable man. Hillary has been planning this campaign since 2000 and it is unfortunate that she is in this race this year because she WILL NOT beat John McCain. Because she has already put herself into the same category of McCain, she claims she and McCain have all this experience, well we don't need experience, we need judgment and the moxy to say NO MORE! "

S.D. Gordon wrote on Mar 7, 2008 2:57 PM:

" I'm an Ohioan. You talk about Hillary's management skill. She is so great! Well why did she have to lend her campaign 5M and why is this race to tight, she has always been the front runner, and she has the experience she states, if she cannot run her campaign any better....I don't want her running our country! Moreover, have you forgotten the scandals the Clintons bring with them? Ugh "

mr wrote on Mar 7, 2008 1:22 PM:

" Hillary spoke of all talk and no action. Obama appears more honest and straight forward and what a plus it is to hope or even attempt to bring people closer together. Hillary speaks and I watch actions: She signed a paper as did Obama and Edwards to not campaign in Mich. & Flor. She left her name on the ballot, unlike Obama and Edwards. Yet, she still wants to count all votes from both of those states? She seriously thinks that's fair? If so, I don't want her in office. "

Marie wrote on Mar 7, 2008 10:56 AM:

" I've been for Hillary. Then I was pretty upset by her negative campaigns in Texas and Ohio. Now I'm kind of on the fence. Do you think that the messages we all see, always repeating the same attacks (word for word) on Obama, are just sent in by Hillary's election machine? I wonder. "

Dan wrote on Mar 7, 2008 7:16 AM:

" Were a Democratic player? now thats something to be ashamed of. "

looker wrote on Mar 7, 2008 6:18 AM:

" Repulican watch the way a party so be, to listen to the voice of thier people not behind close doors. "

A.C. wrote on Mar 7, 2008 2:33 AM:

" In the debates Hillary seems so much more clear and specific. Obama says "I agree with her" an awful lot. And Hillary's healthcare plan would cover EVERYONE. "

lukas wrote on Mar 7, 2008 12:26 AM:

" Obama bought a mock Georgian mansion on Chicago's South Side on June 15, 2005, the same day Rezko's wife bought a plot next door from the same seller. Obama then purchased from Rezko another parcel at above-market value. Federal prosecutors recently revealed that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi billionaire who lives in London, wired $3.5 million to the financially strapped Rezko in Chicago less than a month before the Obama-Rezko purchases. James Bone, an investigative reporter for the Times of London, wrote last Tuesday that "the money transfer raises the question of whether funds" from Auchi "helped" Obama buy his house.

A corruption trial of his former fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko on charges of influence peddling began in Chicago this past week.

"

K.H. wrote on Mar 7, 2008 12:14 AM:

" Obama sounds very promising, if you like a very strict environmental policy. Ranchers should be concerned, that under an Obama administration, there's a chance that cattle grazing rights may be reduced. Hillary likes the cattle industry, and she is more likely to support ranchers. So which one do you trust more to see to it, that ranchers are not hurt by bad environmental policy? "

John Able wrote on Mar 6, 2008 11:33 PM:

" Well guys and gals, we Ohioans came out in numbers for Hillary. Some NY Farmers came over to tell us about what she did for them when she was a Senator. I have relatives in PA. they are older and remember how good the ecomony was in the 90's. But say, we wonder about thet Obama guy. He is somthing, always wearing that tie and white shirt. He hasn't done anything but he wants to handle our money in Washington, let alone let him answer the 3 a.m. phone call. God forbid if his wife answered it.
Have a good summer hope you get some rain and have enough hay. We have been drenched so may continue into summer "

mj wrote on Mar 6, 2008 9:34 PM:

" I am a democrat, and a rancher. I don't hate Hillary, I respect her
"

Helen Munsch wrote on Mar 6, 2008 8:05 PM:

" In response to the comment regarding Bill Clinton's public speaking engagements.
There are many people who travel the country and make speeches as a living. Some are motivational speakers, others are professionals in their fields sharing their expertise. Why shouldn't Bill get paid for sharing his expertise. The country was in great shape during his presidency. Have you ever given it much thought as to how much Bush has raked in since residing in the oval office for 8 years? I'm sure he's made a lot of money for his buddies and himself and has run this country into huge debt our children and grandchildren shall have to bear, damaged the respect and integrity of this country, diminished the middle class, continues to support outsourcing of jobs to foreign countries, opened the doors to immigration because he said it was good for business and the economy, and allowed the Congress to spend money from Social Security. Do you really think he'll be able to get paid to talk about his term in the oval office? "

ob wrote on Mar 6, 2008 7:06 PM:

" It says volumes that the ranchers would want to vote for Obama over McCain come November. I think the dems. best chance at victory come november is with Obama. "

John C. Pickett, Indiana wrote on Mar 6, 2008 6:00 PM:

" This article is great! I have tried to explain Wyoming Democrats for years. The conservatism embodied in Western Democrats needs to be addressed by the party. If you can - GO to the caucus...it is Fun! - A Great Experience... "

Elizabeth wrote on Mar 6, 2008 5:35 PM:

" Obama has been a proud supporter of Ethics Reform in Washington. What candidate running besides him will honestly show such support for transparency? You can go the FEC website and see how much money has been given to Hillary's campaigns since 2000 from DRUG COMPANIES. A healthcare plan intended to make insurance companies rich! Think Cheney and Halliburton. Release your tax returns! the originals and not any edited version!

Thank you. GO WYOMING!

Obama 2008,
Elizabeth from Texas "

rancher wrote on Mar 6, 2008 5:29 PM:

" What ranchers hate hillary??? I hate the word hate. I have been a supporter of hers since 1999 when I heard her speak on human rights in China. "

Annie May wrote on Mar 6, 2008 4:22 PM:

" "If one candidate is trying to scare you and the other one is try get you to think, if one candidate is appealing to your fears and the other one is appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope." "

Go Anyone but Hillary wrote on Mar 6, 2008 4:05 PM:

" I feel the same way. Anybody but Hillary. She is so corrupt, and the commercialization of the Presidency(done by her husband) has made the position less respectable. I'm talking about the fact he has made over 40 million dollars in public speaking engagements since he left office. What do you think she is going to do when she is done? "

cross eyed mary wrote on Mar 6, 2008 3:59 PM:

" john millin needs to get his eyes looked at he's not seeing ths election straight "

s.b. wrote on Mar 6, 2008 3:37 PM:

" the democratic caucuses in Wyoming are closed. Registered republicans cannot attend them or vote. This guy knows that too. You had to be registered as a democrat by 30 days before the caucus to participate unless you are 17, but 18 by Nov. Only these people can vote if not registered as democrats. "

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